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Pierre 30-08-2022 11:45

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36132797)

It's not just pubs, this will hit all kinds of retailers, restaurants etc that can't afford to heat & light their businesses.

denphone 30-08-2022 12:03

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36132798)
It's not just pubs, this will hit all kinds of retailers, restaurants etc that can't afford to heat & light their businesses.

Exactly as unless something radical is done soon the the predicted scenario where energy price rises of up to 400% plus for businesses especially smaller ones is frightening.


A lot of small businesses, pubs, restaurants, etc, etc will in all likelihood have to close their doors.

Hugh 30-08-2022 12:21

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36132799)
Exactly as unless something radical is done soon the the predicted scenario where energy price rises of up to 400% plus for businesses especially smaller ones is frightening.


A lot of small businesses, pubs, restaurants, etc, etc will in all likelihood have to close their doors.

Meanwhile…

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4...68786c176e6829

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www....tour-j9c693r32

Quote:

Boris Johnson will kick off a farewell tour of Britain today as he spends his last week as prime minister highlighting his achievements in 10 Downing Street.

Pierre 30-08-2022 14:17

Re: The energy crisis
 
from the Times article.

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Johnson will travel to Dorset to trumpet his government’s record expanding broadband to rural communities.

When Johnson took over as prime minister, only 7 per cent of households had gigabit broadband. That number has risen to 70 per cent today
That has nothing (or very little) to do with government policy. The vast increase in % gigabit broadband available in the UK is mainly to with VM upgrading it's HFC to gigabit capability.

The question to be asked is how many have access to fibre broadband. Although increasing is still woefully behind other countries.

pip08456 30-08-2022 17:28

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36132801)
from the Times article.



That has nothing (or very little) to do with government policy. The vast increase in % gigabit broadband available in the UK is mainly to with VM upgrading it's HFC to gigabit capability.

The question to be asked is how many have access to fibre broadband. Although increasing is still woefully behind other countries.

Really? Do you have any evidence VM is reponsible for the "vast increase in % gigabit broadband available in the UK is mainly to with VM"?

1andrew1 30-08-2022 20:30

Re: The energy crisis
 
A piece of good news, albeit a small piece.
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Wholesale gas prices tumble as Europe prepares to intervene in energy markets

European Commission says it is working ‘flat out’ on emergency intervention and on longer-term structural reform

The wholesale price of gas has dropped sharply in a rare respite from recent highs on signs that Europe is preparing to intervene directly in energy markets.

The European Commission said it was working “flat out” on an emergency package, and on a longer-term “structural reform of the electricity market” to combat soaring prices while efforts to fill gas storage facilities appear to be ahead of schedule.

The day-ahead UK wholesale gas price tumbled by more than 20% to 447p per therm on Tuesday, while the month-ahead contract dropped by a quarter, to 473p per therm.

It came as the business secretary, Kwasi Kwarteng, announced progress on efforts to reopen the UK’s biggest gas storage facility. The energy group Centrica is working to bring the Rough facility, located under the North Sea off the east Yorkshire coast, back into use.

“After months of work, the UK oil and gas regulator has today granted the required approvals and consents,” Kwarteng said on Tuesday evening, announcing the green light from the North Sea Transition Authority.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...energy-markets

jfman 30-08-2022 20:50

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36132805)
Really? Do you have any evidence VM is reponsible for the "vast increase in % gigabit broadband available in the UK is mainly to with VM"?

I think it’d take a creative interpretation of the upward trajectory of the gigabit capable figure compared with the HFC upgrades to see it any other way. It certainly outstripped the contribution of FTTP. Indeed, if you take HFC out the 70% figure basically halves, and there will be FTTP overbuild by others in HFC areas. Virgin also make a reasonable contribution to FTTP growth.

Paul 30-08-2022 22:23

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36132805)
Really? Do you have any evidence VM is reponsible for the "vast increase in % gigabit broadband available in the UK is mainly to with VM"?

Well 15.5 million homes have access to VM now, thats a sizeable chunk (56% )of the total UK homes (27.8 million), so it seems pretty reasonable to say a huge chunk of the increase is due to VM. There are 8 million homes with FTTP, but its not clear how many of those (like me) actually have access to both.

Pierre 31-08-2022 09:17

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36132805)
Really? Do you have any evidence VM is reponsible for the "vast increase in % gigabit broadband available in the UK is mainly to with VM"?

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...this%20upgrade.

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In early December 2021, Virgin Media O2 completed upgrading its network so that all connected premises could access gigabit download speeds. Ofcom estimated that gigabit-broadband was available to 60% of UK premises at the end of 2021 following this upgrade
the map shows the highest concentration of gigabit broadband which correlates directly with Virgin Media cabled areas.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...-1860x1395.png

Jaymoss 31-08-2022 10:15

Re: The energy crisis
 
forgot what thread I was reading for a minute. Got mixed up thinking it was a VM thread

pip08456 31-08-2022 11:56

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36132849)
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...this%20upgrade.



the map shows the highest concentration of gigabit broadband which correlates directly with Virgin Media cabled areas.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...-1860x1395.png

A lot can happen in 18 months. Not saying its no longer true but perhaps not as high a percentage for VM especially in rural areas.

Jaymoss 31-08-2022 12:10

Re: The energy crisis
 
Excuse my naivety but was there somehow a link between VMs gigabit roll out and the energy crisis I missed somewhere?

Paul 31-08-2022 12:38

Re: The energy crisis
 
You have to go back to Post #1113.

That said, lets get back to the topic at hand.

pip08456 31-08-2022 13:02

Re: The energy crisis
 
On a brighter note:

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The world's largest offshore wind farm is now fully operational, 55 miles off the coast of Yorkshire.

The Hornsea 2 project can generate enough electricity to power about 1.3 million homes - that's enough for a city the size of Manchester.

A decade ago renewables made up just 11% of the UK's energy mix. By 2021 it was 40%, with offshore wind the largest component.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62731923

Unfortunately the price of elecrictity is tied to the price of gas ATM so can't see it making much difference.

Mr K 31-08-2022 13:50

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36132871)
On a brighter note:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62731923

Unfortunately the price of elecrictity is tied to the price of gas ATM so can't see it making much difference.

Have you been to Hornsea? It's always blowing a gale ! Thank God the hell hole is good something. Nearly as bad as Cleethorpes ;)


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