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Mick 09-05-2018 03:22
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35946324)
The IAEA inspectors said otherwise. Are you getting your intel from Tony Blair's Iraq weapons inspectors?
And these inspectors have 100% capability to inspect every square inch of Iran?

Give me a break. :rolleyes:

You just don't get it, Iran are a foe, they are not our friends and never will be under their current regime.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
If he's not an appeaser, why did he hand over $130k to Stormy Daniels?
He didn't, his lawyer did and even if he did, I couldn't give a shit, over 10 years ago, Trump was a private citizen what he may have or not done, I don't care about.

Did you adopt the current policy of Fake News CNN ?

That is..... Whenever Trump does something to piss off the left, jump straight to a negative Trump story, like the Daniels case.

You know the other night, a Democratic Attorney General based in New York, "Schneiderman" was accused by 4 women of sexual misconduct and beatings... he had to resign..... Well CNN did not cover the story once, stuck to their Stormy Daniels coverage. CNN is the Democratic Propaganda channel, that's why their viewer ratings are absolutely dire compared to other news outlets.

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Oooh talking of the former Democratic AG, "Schneiderman"....

Surprise surprise, looks like he gave the Clinton Foundation a pass when it came to naming foreign donors...

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State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman gave the Clinton Foundation a pass on identifying foreign donors in its charitable filings — making it impossible to know if it got any special favors while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, according to a report Tuesday.

Scripps News found that the foundation and its subsidiary, the Clinton Health Access Initiative, took in $225 million in government donations between 2010 and 2014.

New York’s charity law clearly states: “Organizations that received a contribution or grant from a government agency during the reporting period shall include the name of each agency from which contributions were received and the amount of each contribution.”
https://nypost.com/2016/09/06/schnei...site%20buttons

Damien 09-05-2018 05:11
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35946322)
This Iran deal was terrible, it was not ever passed by Congress because it was NOT a popular arrangement, even some Democrats opposed it, Obama feared he would lose if it passed through Congress, that's why he did not even try, but as for the deal as it stood...Billions of $$ handed over, sanctions lifted for what?
The money was their own money that had been frozen. The sanctions were lifted in return for not developing nuclear weapons.

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For Iran to improve it's economic prospects and be allowed to still make Nuclear weapons (In Secret) and use them by 2025.
Where is the evidence they were developing them in secret? My understanding is nuclear weapons are not easy to make, you need heavy water reactors, uranium, specialists and specialist requirement to say the least. We knew when North Korea had started developing them after all even before tests.

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The Iranians are not our friends, yet we would rather side with them than the current occupant of the White House, it is Trump derangement syndrome, yet again.
Ok but will you apply the same to North Korea? Any deal done with them is also going to involve the lifting of sanctions.

No one is saying Iran are our friends but that not developing nuclear weapons in return for a lifting of sanctions is a fair trade and to be honest if it were Trump who did this deal his fans would be calling for the Nobel peace prize as they're doing for North Korea even before a deal.

The main thing I don't get though is what's Trump's plan to stop them developing weapons now? It can't be 'we'll apply sanctions'.....

1andrew1 09-05-2018 08:47
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35946336)
The main thing I don't get though is what's Trump's plan to stop them developing weapons now? It can't be 'we'll apply sanctions'.....
BoJo called him out on this recently and he's a man who knows what having no plan B looks like.
I think it's a bit like Obamacare. Trump's issue is that Obama signed the deal.
As you said, like Korea, Trump's fan base would have been all over the Iran deal if he had signed it.

Mick 09-05-2018 10:47
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35946342)
BoJo called him out on this recently and he's a man who knows what having no plan B looks like.
I think it's a bit like Obamacare. Trump's issue is that Obama signed the deal.
As you said, like Korea, Trump's fan base would have been all over the Iran deal if he had signed it.
They certainly would not, Trump would not have signed a deal as terrible as it was, handed over Billions in cash, regardless if it was Iran’s or not. Removed sanctions that allowed a ‘foe’ to prosper and finance State sponsored terrorism.

And No, the issue with Obamacare was that it got expensive, but not anymore, seeing as the Tax budgets that was passed, saw the individual mandate of Obamacare removed.

I don’t think anyone in their right minds would happily just accept massive increases in their healthcare bills, you would not, some families were seeing $1,000’s added to monthly costs. And there was that ridiculous lie Obama told, saying you could keep your doctor.....

Damien 09-05-2018 11:42
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35946353)
They certainly would not, Trump would not have signed a deal as terrible as it was, handed over Billions in cash, regardless if it was Iran’s or not. Removed sanctions that allowed a ‘foe’ to prosper and finance State sponsored terrorism.
Well what deal will he sign? What will N.Korea want?

Mick 09-05-2018 13:38
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35946356)
Well what deal will he sign? What will N.Korea want?
I gather they would want the Korean Peninsula to be demiliterised, I cannot see the U.S falling for that, that would be a mistake. NK will certainly want sanctions lifted.

North Korea have already showed some interesting moves, reset their clocks to no longer be half n hour behind that of South Korea, released U.S detainees, I do believe they are now in U.S Secretary of State's Mike Pompeo's custody as we speak.

Damien 09-05-2018 13:47
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35946367)
I gather they would want the Korean Peninsula to be demiliterised, I cannot see the U.S falling for that, that would be a mistake. NK will certainly want sanctions lifted.

North Korea have already showed some interesting moves, reset their clocks to no longer be half n hour behind that of South Korea, released U.S detainees, I do believe they are now in U.S Secretary of State's Mike Pompeo's custody as we speak.
Ok but given the problem with the Iranian deal is that it was only a stop on development of the weapons until a later date then surely the equivalent request from NK would be to give up the weapons they've already developed?

Isn't a bit inconsistent to be against the lifting of sanctions on Iran as the deal was only a stop-gap measure to halt their progression but be fine with it on North Korea even if they don't give up the weapons they already have?

I mean if Trump gets them to halt the development altogether than fair play to him but if the end result is Iran develops these weapons then what's the point? Even in the worst case scenario under the existing deal, that they develop them anyway, all that tearing up the deal does is bring that day closer.

Hugh 09-05-2018 20:17
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35946367)
I gather they would want the Korean Peninsula to be demiliterised, I cannot see the U.S falling for that, that would be a mistake. NK will certainly want sanctions lifted.

North Korea have already showed some interesting moves, reset their clocks to no longer be half n hour behind that of South Korea, released U.S detainees, I do believe they are now in U.S Secretary of State's Mike Pompeo's custody as we speak.
That's been confirmed - really good news.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I am pleased to inform you that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is in the air and on his way back from North Korea with the 3 wonderful gentlemen that everyone is looking so forward to meeting. They seem to be in good health. Also, good meeting with Kim Jong Un. Date & Place set.

1:30 PM - May 9, 2018

Hugh 10-05-2018 00:29
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From the Military Times.

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-be...-for-a-decade/
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Trump seems confused about military pay raises

WASHINGTON — Speaking to a crowd of military spouses on Wednesday, President Donald Trump incorrectly claimed that his administration gave service members their first pay raise in 10 years, a moment he was “proud” to oversee.

In fact, troops have seen a pay raise of at least 1 percent every year for more than 30 years. The 2018 military pay raise — which was 2.4 percent — was the largest for the armed forces in eight years.

On Wednesday, at the signing of an executive order to increase military spouse hiring among federal agencies, Trump called the raise this January the “first time in 10 years” that troops had seen a paycheck boost.

Maggy 14-05-2018 08:44
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44080723

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Washington is re-imposing strict sanctions on Iran, which were lifted under the 2015 international deal to control the country's nuclear ambitions. On 8 May President Donald Trump denounced the deal, saying he would withdraw the US from it.
It's going to be hard for some EU companies if the other signatories do decide to stick with the Agreement.Even if they do this.

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There is an existing EU "blocking statute", from 1996, aimed at countering US sanctions linked to communist Cuba. Now EU officials say they are revamping the statute to avoid the latest US restrictions on firms doing business with Iran.

But there are doubts about the statute's legal power. Reuters news agency says Shell and some other European firms with big operations in the US prefer to push for US waivers on a case-by-case basis.
Whatever happens it's a mess.

RizzyKing 14-05-2018 09:22
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Not sure how credible it is but a video was uploaded to YouTube by some news site stating that if the U.S broke from the deal and imposed sanctions Iran were going to release the name's of all western politicians who financially benefitted from the original deal. Be interesting to see in the coming days if that's true or not could certainly do some damage if it is true.

TheDaddy 14-05-2018 09:38
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35946764)
Not sure how credible it is but a video was uploaded to YouTube by some news site stating that if the U.S broke from the deal and imposed sanctions Iran were going to release the name's of all western politicians who financially benefitted from the original deal. Be interesting to see in the coming days if that's true or not could certainly do some damage if it is true.
It was something Hossein Jaberi Ansari their foreign minister said on tv apparently, classy, trying to blackmail people who have taken bribes to exert influence and pressure on the donald, a pox on all their houses imo

RizzyKing 14-05-2018 10:04
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Well if it's true then despite Iran's intentions for doing it i think we need to know if any of our politicians were amongst them and if it goes as high as a national leader they should resign well anyone involved should resign and be subject of an investigation with custodial sentences.

Hugh 15-05-2018 20:46
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35946367)
I gather they would want the Korean Peninsula to be demiliterised, I cannot see the U.S falling for that, that would be a mistake. NK will certainly want sanctions lifted.

North Korea have already showed some interesting moves, reset their clocks to no longer be half n hour behind that of South Korea, released U.S detainees, I do believe they are now in U.S Secretary of State's Mike Pompeo's custody as we speak.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news...000551315.html
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SEOUL, May 16 (Yonhap) -- North Korea said Wednesday it is canceling high-level talks with South Korea planned for later in the day due to ongoing military exercises between the South and the United States.

The North's Korean Central News Agency said the Max Thunder drills between the South Korean and U.S. air forces are a rehearsal for invasion of the North and a provocation amid warming inter-Korean ties.

It also called into question whether next month's summit between North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and U.S. President Donald Trump can go ahead as planned.

"This exercise targeting us, which is being carried out across South Korea, is a flagrant challenge to the Panmunjom Declaration and an intentional military provocation running counter to the positive political development on the Korean Peninsula," the KCNA report said. "The United States will also have to undertake careful deliberations about the fate of the planned North Korea-U.S. summit in light of this provocative military ruckus jointly conducted with the South Korean authorities."
Looks like Kim Jong-Un is playing silly beggars again...

Damien 15-05-2018 21:23
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Wait and see but I don't trust them.


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