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adzii_nufc 07-04-2017 02:33
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I think it'll be a near unanimous agreement that something has to be done, but I can't help but fear an accident with Russia somewhere down the line akin to what the Turkish did over a 17 second airspace incursion. It's a very delicate situation this. I didn't like the idea of the US and Russia in the same conflict zone before, I'm still not liking it now.

TheDaddy 07-04-2017 03:34
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80 missiles fired into Syria by American warships

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39523654

adzii_nufc 07-04-2017 03:50
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The fan has now been struck with some of that smelly brown waste :erm:

So much for that dream relationship with Putin. Trump just made a formal statement confirming the strike order. The number of missiles isn't solid yet, fluctuations between 50-80 with the 'official' being 60.

Quote:
Several Western states have immediately pinned the blame on President Bashar Assad’s forces, while Russia said Syrian jets bombed a warehouse where chemical weapons were being produced (C).
Russian news source^

Lopsided Russian view on it, the USA would not strike without intelligence, I'm fairly certain at the very least they've had an operational drone watching the place since the chemical attack.

(C) - There is absolutely no credibility in this story besides a bleak Russian source, it's essentially believe Russia or bust on that claim, there's no evidence.

TheDaddy 07-04-2017 04:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35893639)
The fan has now been struck with some of that smelly brown waste :erm:

So much for that dream relationship with Putin. Trump just made a formal statement confirming the strike order. The number of missiles isn't solid yet, fluctuations between 50-80 with the 'official' being 60.



Russian news source^

Lopsided Russian view on it, the USA would not strike without intelligence, I'm fairly certain at the very least they've had an operational drone watching the place since the chemical attack.

(C) - There is absolutely no credibility in this story besides a bleak Russian source, it's essentially believe Russia or bust on that claim, there's no evidence.
If no further action is taken I'd say the US Russian relationship is not only intact but stronger than people might think.

moriah 07-04-2017 04:52
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I think when it comes in fighting jihadist. US and Russia are strong allies.

Damien 07-04-2017 09:27
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Not sure how this will turn out, not sure if further intervention will happen, not sure if this will help. I think we should have intervened years ago, back when Parliament voted it down, it seems rather late now.

Still considering Trump looked like he would reduce American's role in the world and leave much of the middle-east and Eastern Europe to Russian interests. I think he should be commended for drawing a line over what Assad is allowed to do and the willingness to intervene. America taking an active role in the world is better for us than Russia doing so. I am also encouraged by the removal of Bannon from the NSC.

Mick 07-04-2017 09:31
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What a wonderful response to wake up to. I now hope that smirk has been firmly wiped off that ugly arse face of Assad.

Osem 07-04-2017 09:32
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Meaningful intervention is usually a lose lose situation in matters as complex as these. The odd military gesture is one thing but doing anything more is going to mean suffering years of flak and reprisals from one group/side or another both externally and internally. The best possible outcome we can hope for is the least worst one.

ianch99 07-04-2017 09:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35893644)
Not sure how this will turn out, not sure if further intervention will happen, not sure if this will help. I think we should have intervened years ago, back when Parliament voted it down, it seems rather late now.

Still considering Trump looked like he would reduce American's role in the world and leave much of the middle-east and Eastern Europe to Russian interests. I think he should be commended for drawing a line over what Assad is allowed to do and the willingness to intervene. America taking an active role in the world is better for us than Russia doing so. I am also encouraged by the removal of Bannon from the NSC.
I agree with you regards the Bannon decision. I just hope Trump has better intelligence on this issue than Bush/Blair did over Iraq. Fighting in the same war zone on the opposing side to Russia is interesting to say the least.

Given his protectionist/America First policy stance, I cannot see him putting boots on the ground so his abilities is actually removing Assad may be limited.

1andrew1 07-04-2017 10:51
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America will always be damned if they do, damned if they don't. This seems to lay a sensible red line down to Syria and Russia.

Uncle Peter 07-04-2017 12:46
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So, Mr Putin. Where was your mega hi-tech air defence system that can track targets as small as your wiener, shoot down cruise missiles AND make the coffee?

Have a nice day

papa smurf 07-04-2017 12:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35893663)
So, Mr Putin. Where was your mega hi-tech air defence system that can track targets as small as your wiener, shoot down cruise missiles AND make the coffee?

Have a nice day
maybe they turn it off at night;),on a serious note you have a good point there

Uncle Peter 07-04-2017 12:58
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Maybe eh. Putin probably looked at his smart meter and thought ah sod that ;)

There are rumours floating about that the Americans warned them in advance. Still doesn't make the little bully boy look good though ;)

1andrew1 07-04-2017 14:44
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Interesting to see the nuttier supporters of Trump like Infowars are starting to distance themselves from him. This is no bad thing for Trump.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7671601.html

Mr K 07-04-2017 15:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35893665)
There are rumours floating about that the Americans warned them in advance. Still doesn't make the little bully boy look good though ;)
They will have been warned well in advance. What the leaders say in public and what goes on behind the scenes are different things. I sense Putin is getting a bit fed up with Assad, the Russian response hasn't been outright outrage. All very difficult though, both sides are nasty pieces of work in Syria, the innocent civilians inbetween.


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