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Damien 14-11-2016 21:30

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35869731)
It is to make a wider point and America has benefitted from nato, it neatly fitted in with their foreign policy, meant they were in charge rather than a supporting ally to a gulp European army and of course when they were attacked it meant nato supported them with or without that lapdog Blair. Some countries probably should spend more but let's not be daft enough to think it's only about money

NATO is a mutually beneficial alliance. I don't think America is using it as a charity but at the same time they're by the far the biggest contributor to an alliance predominately designed to secure Europe, especially from Russian aggression.

TheDaddy 15-11-2016 10:04

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35869735)
NATO is a mutually beneficial alliance. I don't think America is using it as a charity but at the same time they're by the far the biggest contributor to an alliance predominately designed to secure Europe, especially from Russian aggression.

It is mutually beneficial but the way some people have gone on both here and in the media people would be forgiven for thinking it's all one way which it clearly isn't

Damien 17-11-2016 23:17

Re: US Election 2016
 
http://www.msnbc.com/kate-snow/watch...e-811643459642

Romney being considered for Secretary of State. This would be by far the best appointment out of those rumoured to be in contention. The weird thing is though Romney is very hawkish on Russia, the opposite of Trump. Why would Trump give Secretary of State to him?

Arthurgray50@blu 17-11-2016 23:48

Re: US Election 2016
 
I think this can all change in December, when the electoral colleges meet.

Clinton won the vote of the Nation. Similar to the UK voting system

RizzyKing 18-11-2016 00:40

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Oh for gods sake Arthur give it a rest will you Trump won the election and if you think there's been trouble so far watch what would happen if the election was overturned now even though there is more chance of bacon sandwiches flying onto people's plates. If you want to know the biggest problem these days it's you Arthur people who the second they don't get what they want stamp their feet have a sulk and then demand things change to how they want it. Your supposed to be near pension please start acting in a way befitting your age and get on with things.

Mick 18-11-2016 05:12

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35870169)
I think this can all change in December, when the electoral colleges meet.

Clinton won the vote of the Nation. Similar to the UK voting system

No it can't and no she did not, because the 'Nation' is not spread out evenly across the US. I pointed out in the image I posted pages back, which you have either blatantly ignored or missed, illustrates why the Electoral College vote exists.

If it went with the Popular vote, the West/East Coast, typically leaning democratic and very heavily populated compared to rest of US, would always be the areas which decide the Election and you cannot have that because vast rural areas of Middle America's voting population would not get a second look in.

AND...

Even if they DO some how decide to vote against their own States wishes, the final decision will then go before the Republican controlled congress on 6th Jan 2017, who would then have the ultimate final decision on the Electoral College votes.

papa smurf 18-11-2016 08:17

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35870164)
http://www.msnbc.com/kate-snow/watch...e-811643459642

Romney being considered for Secretary of State. This would be by far the best appointment out of those rumoured to be in contention. The weird thing is though Romney is very hawkish on Russia, the opposite of Trump. Why would Trump give Secretary of State to him?

keep your friends close and your enemies even closer;)

Damien 18-11-2016 08:45

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Let's wait and see. There is little coherence in what he has done so far. Romney would make a lot of people less nervous but he is completely at odds with what little we know of Trump's foreign policy.

Chris 18-11-2016 09:46

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Trump has no policies on anything. His entire election strategy was to say what he needed to say to get votes. The policies of his administration will be those of the people he puts in each job.

Dude111 18-11-2016 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Romney being considered for Secretary of State. This would be by far the best appointment out of those rumoured to be in contention. The weird thing is though Romney is very hawkish on Russia, the opposite of Trump. Why would Trump give Secretary of State to him?

Much better than the one he picked: STEVE BANNON!!!!

I tell ya THEY ARE GONNA DESTROY THE USA FOR ALL BUT THE RICH!!!!!!!!

Its very scary........

Jon M 18-11-2016 15:22

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And Sessions in as Attorney General :D

At least now there is a chance Hillary might actually get put away as she deserves.

adzii_nufc 18-11-2016 18:18

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There's calls for Clinton to be pardoned anyway via Obama on the way out so I wouldn't read too far into it. That should finally bury it and leave it solely for the conspiracy nuts.

Ramrod 18-11-2016 18:27

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As we all seem to need some light relief: Ladies and gentlemen (ok, mainly gentlemen). It has come to my attention that it is possible to google nude pictures of the (future) first lady. How weird is that? :D :rofl:

papa smurf 18-11-2016 18:40

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35870290)
As we all seem to need some light relief: Ladies and gentlemen (ok, mainly gentlemen). It has come to my attention that it is possible to google nude pictures of the (future) first lady. How weird is that? :D :rofl:

its better than pics of Hillary ;)

Kursk 18-11-2016 18:45

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35870290)
As we all seem to need some light relief: Ladies and gentlemen (ok, mainly gentlemen). It has come to my attention that it is possible to google nude pictures of the (future) first lady. How weird is that? :D :rofl:

Took you longer than it took me :p:


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