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theone2k10 29-05-2014 11:53
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35702418)
Its a load of baloney Sir.:nono:
Tbh mate nobody knows what the new owners of channel 5 will bid for, i'm not ruling anything out at the moment.

OLD BOY 29-05-2014 11:59
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35702418)
Its a load of baloney Sir.:nono:
As was the shopping channel suggestion, I would wager!

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35702419)
Tbh mate nobody knows what the new owners of channel 5 will bid for, i'm not ruling anything out at the moment.
Given the small audience share the HBO material has enjoyed so far, and the reputation for quality associated with them, I would have thought that any of these shows would be a major draw on the main FTA channels. However, I would think it more likely that they would appear on ITV or Channel 4.

harry_hitch 29-05-2014 12:11
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35702409)
I wouldn't discount an HBO channel or app launching on Virgin Media. Sky's exclusivity deal only applies to first run shows, and given how far behind we are now with the worthwhile stuff on Sky Atlantic such as Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones, getting SA now would be of limited benefit to us.

If such a channel launched this year, we could have a lot of older HBO material, and there must be quite a lot of this as they have been broadcasting in the States for many years. Added to this, we would have the prospect of getting those SA programmes we've been hankering for in the near future - some of them like Treme may be available immediately. Game of Thrones, however, may still be about two years off before we can get it if an HBO channel/streaming service is what is coming.

It would certainly explain why VM have still not agreed with Sky to launch SA on cable. This was looking like a very real prospect eight or nine months ago, when both sides were reported as being much more realistic about the situation.
OB, whilst I agree with you (and have suggested similar comments as you just have a few times in the past) the statement sky released (I cant seem to find it) when the new deal was signed was a little ambiguous. They did not state outright that they have exclusive rights for on-demand content, but you could equally read the statement as Sky saying they have exclusive first to air rights and also exclusive rights for the rest of the content in an all encompassing deal. I suppose it come downs to how you interpret the wording of the statement.

As I stated earlier, I agree with your thoughts and I would not be surprised to see HBO content become available via some form of monthly subscription. HBO really have Sky over a barrel now, if Sky want exclusive first run TV shows, they have to dance to HBO's tune.

Either way, I am still not overly bothered by the content SA show. GOT has never done it for me, although I am getting pressured by the current squeeze to give it another go.:(. We have compromised and I have downloaded a sample of the book on me Kindle.:).

OLD BOY 29-05-2014 12:22
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35702426)
OB, whilst I agree with you (and have suggested similar comments as you just have a few times in the past) the statement sky released (I cant seem to find it) when the new deal was signed was a little ambiguous. They did not state outright that they have exclusive rights for on-demand content, but you could equally read the statement as Sky saying they have exclusive first to air rights and also exclusive rights for the rest of the content in an all encompassing deal. I suppose it come downs to how you interpret the wording of the statement.

As I stated earlier, I agree with your thoughts and I would not be surprised to see HBO content become available via some form of monthly subscription. HBO really have Sky over a barrel now, if Sky want exclusive first run TV shows, they have to dance to HBO's tune.

Either way, I am still not overly bothered by the content SA show. GOT has never done it for me, although I am getting pressured by the current squeeze to give it another go.:(. We have compromised and I have downloaded a sample of the book on me Kindle.:).
Here is the article about this, Harry.

http://www.sky.com/tv/channel/skyatl...article/hbo???

The collaboration includes an extended content output deal to ensure that Sky Atlantic remains the exclusive home of first-run HBO programmes in Britain and Ireland through 2020.

harry_hitch 29-05-2014 12:40
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35702429)
Here is the article about this, Harry.

http://www.sky.com/tv/channel/skyatl...article/hbo???

The collaboration includes an extended content output deal to ensure that Sky Atlantic remains the exclusive home of first-run HBO programmes in Britain and Ireland through 2020.
Cheers OB, I agree I think it only covers exclusive rights first to air shows only. I just felt others may read the underlined few words as exclusive rights being attached to everything. I don't think it does, time will tell though.

I hope VM get something for their customers who want the content though.

I would hate for people on here to get their hopes up of possibly getting SA content on VM, only for it never to arrive.

I figured I would offer a bit of balance in case they do not.

In addition to linear broadcast, the output deal supports a broad range of multiplatform rights, ensuring HBO content will continue to be available live and on demand not just on TV, but online and on mobile through Sky Go. Sky Atlantic is also available live and on demand through NOW TV, Sky's new internet TV service.

As I say, I agree with your idea and if I remember correctly, I seem to recall news of HBO doing a deal with Amazon in the states a few days ago regarding their back catalouge. IF they did (happy to be corrected if they did not) it would suggest it could easily happen over here.:)

OLD BOY 29-05-2014 13:04
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35702436)
Cheers OB, I agree I think it only covers exclusive rights first to air shows only. I just felt others may read the underlined few words as exclusive rights being attached to everything. I don't think it does, time will tell though.

I hope VM get something for their customers who want the content though.

I would hate for people on here to get their hopes up of possibly getting SA content on VM, only for it never to arrive.

I figured I would offer a bit of balance in case they do not.

In addition to linear broadcast, the output deal supports a broad range of multiplatform rights, ensuring HBO content will continue to be available live and on demand not just on TV, but online and on mobile through Sky Go. Sky Atlantic is also available live and on demand through NOW TV, Sky's new internet TV service.

As I say, I agree with your idea and if I remember correctly, I seem to recall news of HBO doing a deal with Amazon in the states a few days ago regarding their back catalouge. IF they did (happy to be corrected if they did not) it would suggest it could easily happen over here.:)
Hopes are already up, Harry, and have been for a few years. Things are looking more positive now as it seems that VM can find a way around Sky.

blue666666 29-05-2014 13:41
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After yesterday reports of sports HD coming sooner,has any heard anything from their sources :tu:

denphone 29-05-2014 13:45
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Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35702458)
After yesterday reports of sports HD coming sooner,has any heard anything from their sources :tu:
Patience and you all be rewarded Sir.:)

1andrew1 29-05-2014 14:07
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35702375)
Could be but don't think Cinemax would launch anything in uk at the moment due to HBOs Sky deal, i have a bad feeling it's a shopping channel.
I think it's unlikely that a shopping channel would launch in HD straight away, it would wait until it's established to do so. But I don't have a good suggestion.

RichardCoulter 29-05-2014 14:22
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35702473)
I think it's unlikely that a shopping channel would launch in HD straight away, it would wait until it's established to do so. But I don't have a good suggestion.
Maybe, as time has moved on, there isn't much price difference between buying HD and SD studio equipment??

Also, they may not have had any choice, as i've read that some SD equipment is now becoming hard to source.

dilli-theclaw 29-05-2014 14:54
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QVC were until relatively recently going to launch in HD.

Tricky Trevor 29-05-2014 15:02
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Notts tv has begun regular broadcasts on channel 159

spiderplant 29-05-2014 17:32
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35702342)
By "capacity we had reserved" does that mean 80 is the current maximum, or has that changed since 2010?
Capacity work goes on all the time. Not that we're anywhere near 80 yet anyway.

I don't expect the number of channels to ever be limited by technical constraints. There are always ways of adding more.

muppetman11 29-05-2014 18:47
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35702442)
Hopes are already up, Harry, and have been for a few years. Things are looking more positive now as it seems that VM can find a way around Sky.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ranos-the-wire
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The deal is limited to the US at present. In the UK BSkyB owns the rights to much of HBO's back catalogue.

denphone 29-05-2014 18:59
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l think OB is getting his hopes up too much.


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