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Dave42 13-08-2017 01:28
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912188)
It's not a FACT!

You need to read a bit of economic theory. Competition will ultimately get the required result, but it doesn't always come about immediately, particularly when there are barriers to true competition.
that's all it is theory reality is prices go up name one that prices have gone down OB

denphone 13-08-2017 06:22
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35912193)
that's all it is theory reality is prices go up name one that prices have gone down OB
He can't as he has developed convenient memory loss.;)

Chad 13-08-2017 07:56
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35912193)
that's all it is theory reality is prices go up name one that prices have gone down OB
I'd have to say mobile phone sim only deals are cheaper than I can ever remember. Scores of companies offering deals starting from £4 per month. You can pick up some cracking deals for minutes and data for around £7. The same deals would have cost you £10 or £12 per month just a few years ago.

muppetman11 13-08-2017 08:44
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35912197)
I'd have to say mobile phone sim only deals are cheaper than I can ever remember. Scores of companies offering deals starting from £4 per month. You can pick up some cracking deals for minutes and data for around £7. The same deals would have cost you £10 or £12 per month just a few years ago.
In a lot of respects Sports can actually be had cheaper , the competition has drove Sky to offering the complete Sky Sports pack at £20 as opposed to the normal price of £27.50 if you agree to re-contracting for 18 months.

BT Sport also have all sorts of offers.

OLD BOY 13-08-2017 09:53
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35912193)
that's all it is theory reality is prices go up name one that prices have gone down OB
Have you forgotten how much cheaper telephone bills became when BT lost their monopoly to the new cable companies? I certainly haven't!

denphone 13-08-2017 10:13
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912205)
Have you forgotten how much cheaper telephone bills became when BT lost their monopoly to the new cable companies? I certainly haven't!
And line rental prices have gone through the roof unless your inconvenient memory loss forget that.;)

1andrew1 13-08-2017 10:18
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35912198)
In a lot of respects Sports can actually be had cheaper , the competition has drove Sky to offering the complete Sky Sports pack at £20 as opposed to the normal price of £27.50 if you agree to re-contracting for 18 months.

BT Sport also have all sorts of offers.
Agreed. For the average punter looking to get a range of sports and fast broadband for a fair price, it's never been better. Competition has worked in this respect. And those who want to dip into sports without a contract may do so with a Now TV pass.
For those niche enthusiasts who seemingly must have every sport and every Premier League match available then competition has raised their total costs a bit. But they can now see far more Premier League games than ever before including some in UHD and on a variety of devices.

theone2k10 13-08-2017 11:56
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35912193)
that's all it is theory reality is prices go up name one that prices have gone down OB
Bulb energy they've reduced prices :p:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35912197)
I'd have to say mobile phone sim only deals are cheaper than I can ever remember. Scores of companies offering deals starting from £4 per month. You can pick up some cracking deals for minutes and data for around £7. The same deals would have cost you £10 or £12 per month just a few years ago.
Agree with my provider got a cracking deal on iphone 5s (ok not the best phone) with 5gb rollover data, 300 mins, unlimited texts for £13.50p/m.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912217)
And line rental prices have gone through the roof unless your inconvenient memory loss forget that.;)
Line rental is a joke one of the biggest cons going.

Chad 13-08-2017 12:49
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912217)
And line rental prices have gone through the roof unless your inconvenient memory loss forget that.;)
True mate however there are now around 12 companies offering line rental plus 17mb broadband for around £18.99 to £20.99 per month. Okay not the fastest broadband speed but most come with no set up cost and some with fixed price for 18 months. Just go back 3 or 4 years and a similar service was costing about £15.99 line rental plus £10.00 for the broadband. Line rental price is up, line rental plus broadband prices are down.

Gavin-D 16-08-2017 09:25
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sky Sports have sacked Peter Beagrie

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...ports-10993621

pengedragon 17-08-2017 08:00
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Had a call from vm offering me the sky sports collection for the special price of 22 quid a month!

Said I wasn't interested and he immediately said we could get the price down to £15.87 a month

Very precise figure, still not low enough for me to be interested though

Richc1977 17-08-2017 09:31
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Everton v Hajduk, Europa League first leg will be shown on youtube tonight, the second leg next week is on ITV4

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/0...ive-on-youtube

Gavin-D 17-08-2017 11:36
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35912956)
Everton v Hajduk, Europa League first leg will be shown on youtube tonight, the second leg next week is on ITV4

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/0...ive-on-youtube
How come BT Sport are not showing these games like they are with the Champions League?

denphone 17-08-2017 12:15
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35912968)
How come BT Sport are not showing these games like they are with the Champions League?
That is a good question but sadly l cannot answer it.

1701-e 17-08-2017 13:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35912968)
How come BT Sport are not showing these games like they are with the Champions League?
Because it isn't the Champions League!;)

Richc1977 17-08-2017 13:18
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35912968)
How come BT Sport are not showing these games like they are with the Champions League?
BTs current contract only covers Champions League qualifiers not Europa League.

From what I understand BT had first refusal for the Everton game. It then gets passed on to ITV as they hold the contract for the highlights.

I guess ITV didn't want first leg as they are showing Women's rugby World Cup.

Have to say I'm surprised BT are not showing it, they showed the Europa qualifiers in the past two years. I wonder if this indicates cost cutting following changes of management.

OLD BOY 17-08-2017 13:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35912968)
How come BT Sport are not showing these games like they are with the Champions League?
I assume it's because they don't have the rights to show these games.

Richc1977 17-08-2017 18:30
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Link for the Everton game that works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3d4UUtCss

Gavin-D 18-08-2017 11:48
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BT Sport Score will be streamed on Twitter every Saturday from 14:30 following a deal between Twitter and BT

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-sport-sco...ek-on-twitter/

Chad 22-08-2017 19:23
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Noticed a Tweet from Premier Sports earlier in regards to the new Freesports channel that launches in a couple of weeks.

"Give our sister channel a follow! The new platform will allow us to show 2 live events at once & bring a range of sport to 22 million homes!"

Looks like an overflow channel for Premier Sports. They'll possibly broadcast some dual live events over both channels too

Richc1977 23-08-2017 11:02
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35913691)
Noticed a Tweet from Premier Sports earlier in regards to the new Freesports channel that launches in a couple of weeks.

"Give our sister channel a follow! The new platform will allow us to show 2 live events at once & bring a range of sport to 22 million homes!"

Looks like an overflow channel for Premier Sports. They'll possibly broadcast some dual live events over both channels too
So it's looks like Premier Sports doing it's own Sky Sports Mix but on freeview too. Would be nice to see it in HD.

I like this trend. Come on BT, up your game with showcase :)

Chad 23-08-2017 22:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35913746)
So it's looks like Premier Sports doing it's own Sky Sports Mix but on freeview too. Would be nice to see it in HD.

I like this trend. Come on BT, up your game with showcase :)
Totally agree!

Looks like Freesports are drip feeding info on social media. Today they confirmed 3 NHL games per week will be broadcast live on the new channel. Further news regarding other sports coverage coming soon...

Chad 24-08-2017 20:21
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Freesports launches on Freeview on 31st August. Had a look at the schedule on Freeview. Their first live action is NRL Broncos Vs. Cowboys. They also have various shows throughout the day including 30 min shows dedicated to Barcelona, Dortmund and Milan. The info on each show suggests these programs will have news, interviews and highlights for each club.

Raider999 25-08-2017 15:07
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Nothing as yet on Virgin. Anyone any idea what channel number it will be when it arrives?

Gavin-D 25-08-2017 15:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35914022)
Nothing as yet on Virgin. Anyone any idea what channel number it will be when it arrives?
Virgin Media is the only TV provider who are yet to confirm the channel number

Confirmed numbers are

Freeview 95
Sky 424
Freesat 252
TalkTalk 95
BT 95

muppetman11 25-08-2017 21:07
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Amazon TV hints at significant expansion into sport broadcasting

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...t-broadcasting

Chad 25-08-2017 21:34
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35914023)
Virgin Media is the only TV provider who are yet to confirm the channel number

Confirmed numbers are

Freeview 95
Sky 424
Freesat 252
TalkTalk 95
BT 95
Freesports posted more info on social media about their football coverage:

2 live games per week from the Portuguese league
3 live games per week from the Belgian league
1 live game per week from La Liga 2
2 live games per week from the Argentine league
1 or more live games per week from the Irish league

As said before not blockbuster stuff but it's at least 9 live games per week on a Freeview channel. Better football coverage than Eurosport!

OLD BOY 26-08-2017 00:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35914055)
Amazon TV hints at significant expansion into sport broadcasting

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...t-broadcasting
It's what I've been saying is coming, but I dare say that Den will rubbish the idea with no links or facts to support his view.

Hi, Den :waving: Your turn! ;)

denphone 26-08-2017 13:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914069)
It's what I've been saying is coming, but I dare say that Den will rubbish the idea with no links or facts to support his view.

Hi, Den :waving: Your turn! ;)
So you think they are going to be snatching the big major sports rights in this country do you? because if you do then you are going to be very disappointed OB as that is pie in the sky and you know it.;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914069)
It's what I've been saying is coming, but I dare say that Den will rubbish the idea with no links or facts to support his view.

Hi, Den :waving: Your turn! ;)
l think you would rather be the expert at that OB.;)

OLD BOY 26-08-2017 17:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914103)
So you think they are going to be snatching the big major sports rights in this country do you? because if you do then you are going to be very disappointed OB as that is pie in the sky and you know it.;)

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l think you would rather be the expert at that OB.;)
Well, Den, why don't you tell us all why, despite all the evidence to the contrary in the media, you think that sports rights such as the Premier League, will not be taken over by the big OTT providers? Where are your links (or any other evidence) to support your view? And by the way, I have provided links, but you never have on this subject.

The world in the future will not be the same as it was today. You may be resistent to change, but that won't stop it from happening anyway.

King Canute tried to stop the tide coming in, but he ended up looking rather foolish.

denphone 26-08-2017 18:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914124)
Well, Den, why don't you tell us all why, despite all the evidence to the contrary in the media, you think that sports rights such as the Premier League, will not be taken over by the big OTT providers? Where are your links (or any other evidence) to support your view? And by the way, I have provided links, but you never have on this subject.

The world in the future will not be the same as it was today. You may be resistent to change, but that won't stop it from happening anyway.

King Canute tried to stop the tide coming in, but he ended up looking rather foolish.
So you actually believe in your own mind that Sky and BT are going to lose their Premier league rights? because if you do you obviously do not know the major sports rights market in this country.

---------- Post added at 18:51 ---------- Previous post was at 18:47 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914124)
Well, Den, why don't you tell us all why, despite all the evidence to the contrary in the media, you think that sports rights such as the Premier League, will not be taken over by the big OTT providers? Where are your links (or any other evidence) to support your view? And by the way, I have provided links, but you never have on this subject.

The world in the future will not be the same as it was today. You may be resistent to change, but that won't stop it from happening anyway.


King Canute tried to stop the tide coming in, but he ended up looking rather foolish.
l am not resistant to change and never have been but you have a big habit of vastly exaggerating what will happen in actual reality.

---------- Post added at 18:53 ---------- Previous post was at 18:51 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914124)
Well, Den, why don't you tell us all why, despite all the evidence to the contrary in the media, you think that sports rights such as the Premier League, will not be taken over by the big OTT providers? Where are your links (or any other evidence) to support your view? And by the way, I have provided links, but you never have on this subject.

The world in the future will not be the same as it was today. You may be resistent to change, but that won't stop it from happening anyway.

King Canute tried to stop the tide coming in, but he ended up looking rather foolish.
Quite correct that l am a fool :p:;) but its the fool who follows that is usually the bigger fool.:p:

OLD BOY 27-08-2017 00:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914131)
So you actually believe in your own mind that Sky and BT are going to lose their Premier league rights? because if you do you obviously do not know the major sports rights market in this country.
What I am saying is that global players including Amazon, Disney and Discovery are actively seriously considering these options. The links have been provided. What credible evidence can you bring to the party that shows this won't come to anything? As usual, you are repeating your mantra that nothing will ever change with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Well, history shows that it does. All things must pass.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914131)

l am not resistant to change and never have been but you have a big habit of vastly exaggerating what will happen in actual reality.
If you look back over your posts, you will see why I do actually believe you are resistent to change.

You cannot back up your claim that I have 'vastly exaggerated' anything, given that the future hasn't happened yet.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914131)

Quite correct that l am a fool :p:;) but its the fool who follows that is usually the bigger fool.:p:
I have never said that you are a fool, and I don't think that. I should also add that I am not following you. ;)

Gavin-D 28-08-2017 13:23
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Freesports doesn't look like it's coming to VM this week the logo is no longer on twitter

https://twitter.com/FreeSportsUK

So as it stands VM won't be carrying a channel which will be on Freeview

OLD BOY 28-08-2017 14:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35914259)
Freesports doesn't look like it's coming to VM this week the logo is no longer on twitter

https://twitter.com/FreeSportsUK

So as it stands VM won't be carrying a channel which will be on Freeview
Unless this is all part of the bargaining process, although clutching at straws with that thought!

alwaysabear 28-08-2017 15:01
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Freesports is being broadcast on com 8 freeview so will not be available to many people in eastern England.

Chad 28-08-2017 18:22
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35914259)
Freesports doesn't look like it's coming to VM this week the logo is no longer on twitter

https://twitter.com/FreeSportsUK

So as it stands VM won't be carrying a channel which will be on Freeview
Yeah noticed that earlier. They are showing Holland U-21's vs England U-21's live this Friday

Red_dog77 28-08-2017 20:44
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Why do Virgin never get FREE channels from launch ie Spike? (Don't bring up the closed platform nonsense, for Free channels that shouldn't be an issue)

Gavin-D 28-08-2017 21:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_dog77 (Post 35914327)
Why do Virgin never get FREE channels from launch ie Spike? (Don't bring up the closed platform nonsense, for Free channels that shouldn't be an issue)
I can only think it's issues with fees for them

bubblegun 29-08-2017 02:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35914055)
Amazon TV hints at significant expansion into sport broadcasting

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...t-broadcasting
Total BS put out by Richard Scudamore trying to talk up the price of his league's football rights!

Amazon picked up the ATP rights for around £10million?
About the same as 2 premier league games?


The English premier league rights have already gone beyond crazy money in the UK. No company with any sense would bid the kind of money that Sky paid last time!
How would amazon recoup more than £1.7Bn and make a profit in the UK?

They currently have roughly 8 million Prime subscribers in the UK, if they made no money on just that income then they would still only be at about 45% of that cost.

They are big spending but they're not stupid. Premier league rights for UK market is stupid money!

Sky should realistically be trying to pay less in the next deal.
Given BT's recent issues they cannot justify paying that kind of money they did previously, also they seem happy to be the second tier player for domestic rights, but who really knows?
I'm sure his job is probably on the line if the deal is a reduction in premier league income.

muppetman11 29-08-2017 13:11
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I merely posted the link if you read through my posts I agree. I said a long time back that the streaming services would dip their toes into the water with smaller sports to start with and see how that goes.

Rob King 29-08-2017 13:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubblegun (Post 35914350)
Total BS put out by Richard Scudamore trying to talk up the price of his league's football rights!

Amazon picked up the ATP rights for around £10million?
About the same as 2 premier league games?


The English premier league rights have already gone beyond crazy money in the UK. No company with any sense would bid the kind of money that Sky paid last time!
How would amazon recoup more than £1.7Bn and make a profit in the UK?

They currently have roughly 8 million Prime subscribers in the UK, if they made no money on just that income then they would still only be at about 45% of that cost.

They are big spending but they're not stupid. Premier league rights for UK market is stupid money!

Sky should realistically be trying to pay less in the next deal.
Given BT's recent issues they cannot justify paying that kind of money they did previously, also they seem happy to be the second tier player for domestic rights, but who really knows?
I'm sure his job is probably on the line if the deal is a reduction in premier league income.

i think when the the rights are up for sale again i think Sky Tv will find alot more companies will fighting for a share forcing sky to reduce there prices too , i can't under stand why Virgin Media dont put a bid in for it too

denphone 29-08-2017 13:47
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35914390)
I merely posted the link if you read through my posts I agree. I said a long time back that the streaming services would dip their toes into the water with smaller sports to start with and see how that goes.
According to certain revered posters the premier league rights are about to go to them as well.;):rofl:

Gavin-D 30-08-2017 12:05
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Celebrity Big Brother could move to Netflix or Amazon in January

muppetman11 30-08-2017 12:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35914549)
Celebrity Big Brother could move to Netflix or Amazon in January
Oh good anything that stops it appearing when I'm channel hopping.

denphone 30-08-2017 12:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35914549)
Celebrity Big Brother could move to Netflix or Amazon in January
That will please OB that is for sure.;):D

muppetman11 30-08-2017 12:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914553)
That will please OB that is for sure.;):D
Oh yes because the streaming services only contain all the quality shows.:D

denphone 30-08-2017 12:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35914554)
Oh yes because the streaming services only contain all the quality shows.:D
What else can you expect from OB :waving::nworthy: with his rose tinted glasses on.:D

OLD BOY 30-08-2017 12:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914555)
What else can you expect from OB :waving::nworthy: with his rose tinted glasses on.:D
You two are a couple of old stick-in-the-muds! :p:

Dave42 30-08-2017 17:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35914549)
Celebrity Big Brother could move to Netflix or Amazon in January
hope it true don't want to see a second of that utter crap

OLD BOY 30-08-2017 17:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35914594)
hope it true don't want to see a second of that utter crap
You don't have to watch it, Dave!

denphone 30-08-2017 18:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35914599)
You don't have to watch it, Dave!
Well he won't be the only one not watching it.:td:

OLD BOY 30-08-2017 18:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35914608)
Well he won't be the only one not watching it.:td:
Same here!

Gavin-D 04-09-2017 13:39
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BT launches updated mobile TV app for iOS and Android

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-launches-...s-and-android/


Star India have won the global television and digital rights for the Indian Premier League after paying £1.97bn for a five-year deal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41146503


EE launches new 4GEE Home Router on the UK’s fastest 4G network

http://newsroom.ee.co.uk/ee-launches...st-4g-network/

denphone 04-09-2017 14:32
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Premier League Considers Airing Saturday Night Matches in Coming Months.

Quote:
Such plans would see an astronomical increase in the sum of £5.14 billion paid by Sky Sports and BT Sports for the rights to the 2016/17 - 2018/19 seasons
http://www.90min.com/posts/5491900-p...-coming-months

Chad 04-09-2017 22:24
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ITV have landed the highly anticipated World Boxing Super Series:

https://twitter.com/SauerlandBros/st...97072402014208

14 massive nights of boxing over the next 8 months featuring some of the worlds best boxers at super middleweight and cruiserweight. Fights will be shown in ITV, ITV4 and ITV Box Office however speculation suggests only a couple of the fight nights will end up on PPV.

These are fights that not only rival but surpass some of the events televised by SKY and Boxnation. Great news for boxing fans.

More live boxing news! Boxing returns to Dave on 20th October for the professional debut of Joe Joyce. Joyce won Gold at the 2014 Commonwealth Games and Silver at the 2016 Olympics for team GB at super heavyweight.

Dave42 04-09-2017 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915207)
Premier League Considers Airing Saturday Night Matches in Coming Months.



http://www.90min.com/posts/5491900-p...-coming-months
no surprise costs were always gonna get higher

denphone 05-09-2017 04:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35915278)
no surprise costs were always gonna get higher
Strange how our usual suspect has gone rather quiet today as the imaginary delusion of thinking lower TV sports prices were coming is just that.;)

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 09:40
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915291)
Strange how our usual suspect has gone rather quiet today as the imaginary delusion of thinking lower TV sports prices were coming is just that.;)
I don't think you were ever likely to get so many extra matches for free, Den!

denphone 05-09-2017 10:06
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35915301)
I don't think you were ever likely to get so many extra matches for free, Den!
So you agree in that prices are likely to rise then??.;)

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 10:26
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915306)
So you agree in that prices are likely to rise then??.;)
Assuming that Sky and BT will have to pay more to screen the extra matches, then it is pretty obvious that those increases will be passed on. However, you still seem to be confused by what I have said about the impact of competition.

What I have said is that when the big global players such as Amazon, Netflix, Discovery, etc move in, we are likely to see more imaginative models which could lower prices to the consumer despite higher payments being made for the rights. I never said this would happen with the existing players, Sky and BT. We will have to wait until potential bidders with bigger pockets get stuck in. This might happen with the next bidding round or perhaps the one after, but it will happen. Prices to the consumer are so high at the moment because Sky and BT keep everything to themselves and charge as much as they can, and other operators are shut out of as much as they can get away with. These are the practices more associated with monopolies.

If there was more on-selling or distribution of rights to other platforms to show some of these matches, the cost to the winning bidders will come down. I cannot foretell when this will come about, but I am sure it will sooner rather than later.

muppetman11 05-09-2017 10:37
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Old Boy you do talk some complete rubbish , I suppose Amazon and Netflix will sell it at a loss or minimal profit. Of course they will.:rolleyes:

Give us a few ideas of how you think they'll sell it or bundle it with their existing offerings.

Kabaal 05-09-2017 11:18
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I wouldn't be surprised if the streaming platforms get into it via 3pm kick offs at first. The current ban on them being broadcast in the UK will eventually cave to the ridiculous amounts of money that will be offered.

Whatever happens it will unlikely be one provider offering everything (at whatever price) anytime soon. More likely we'll end up having to shell out for Sky + BT + Amazon/whoever.

denphone 05-09-2017 11:19
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Anthony Joshua to fight Kubrat Pulev in Cardiff on Sky Sports Box Office on October 28th.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...edium=referral

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 11:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35915310)
Old Boy you do talk some complete rubbish , I suppose Amazon and Netflix will sell it at a loss or minimal profit. Of course they will.:rolleyes:

Give us a few ideas of how you think they'll sell it or bundle it with their existing offerings.
I gave you an example in my last post. Of course they won't make a loss! They would find alternative means of extracting more income from other broadcasters and offer additional cheaper packages to attract more subscribers.

muppetman11 05-09-2017 11:58
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The whole idea of adding things to Prime is attracting people to buying at Amazon , how would that work if other broadcasters had the content Amazon had just paid boat loads of money for.

denphone 05-09-2017 12:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35915324)
I gave you an example in my last post. Of course they won't make a loss! They would find alternative means of extracting more income from other broadcasters and offer additional cheaper packages to attract more subscribers.
Perhaps you need to read this OB as this tells you the sports rights market is going one way worldwide.

http://indianexpress.com/article/spo...-bcci-4829847/

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35915329)
The whole idea of adding things to Prime is attracting people to buying at Amazon , how would that work if other broadcasters had the content Amazon had just paid boat loads of money for.
Because Amazon would have all the matches it pays for. It could sell on selected matches to terrestrial or other broadcasters; provide snippets to YouTube and other platforms; set up Amazon pay channels on all pay tv platforms (not just Sky, Virgin and BT) including on Amazon Prime; employ techniques to enable discounts and promotions on these services by way of sales inducements; provide better access by way of pay per view events on all platforms; etc.

There are plenty of opportunities to make money out of having these sports rights in a way that Sky and BT do not and that is what would enable them to pay more for the rights while decreasing costs to the consumer.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915340)
Perhaps you need to read this OB as this tells you the sports rights market is going one way worldwide.

http://indianexpress.com/article/spo...-bcci-4829847/
Again, that's what happens with monopolies and monopoly practices.

muppetman11 05-09-2017 15:01
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Still sounds pie in the Sky Old Boy.

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 16:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35915370)
Still sounds pie in the Sky Old Boy.
It's just different. Nobody would have imagined ten years ago that we would have the likes of Netflix streaming TV series and films to our TV screens, would they?

We have become used to Sky's way of doing things, but as usual, disrupters come in and muck it all up for the established players.

Gavin-D 05-09-2017 19:46
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Virgin Media owner Liberty Global rolls out Juniper NFV

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/4...ut-Juniper-NFV

jfman 09-09-2017 18:53
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What are Virgin going to do with BT Sport Showcase?

Are they going to offer the HD variant or just simulcast the SD channel carrying the appropriate game at the appropriate time?

Mad Max 10-09-2017 12:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35915419)
Virgin Media owner Liberty Global rolls out Juniper NFV

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/4...ut-Juniper-NFV
So what does this mean for us the customers, where will we see any improvements?

Media Boy UK 11-09-2017 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35915906)
What are Virgin going to do with BT Sport Showcase?

Are they going to offer the HD variant or just simulcast the SD channel carrying the appropriate game at the appropriate time?
BT Showcase (Brand as BT Showcase) is shown on Virgin UK Channel 548.

The HD game (From one of the BT Sports HD Channels) is shown on Virgin UK Channel 100.

Gavin-D 12-09-2017 08:38
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"THE English Football League and Sky have agreed a new £600m deal to show any midweek Championship game live on television.

Details of the revolutionary five-year contract between 2019-2024 – communicated to the 72 member clubs last night – are to be announced today.

From next season, the broadcaster can show every midweek match via its interactive service so that viewers can choose which game to watch.

There are eight full midweek rounds of Championship matches so there will be regular head-to-head clashes with Champions League games shown on BT Sport.

Sky Sports have retained the rights to the Football League in a deal worth around £120million a year."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/44437...tatement:Sport

denphone 12-09-2017 08:52
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Where is OB :waving:;) when we need him as l am sure he will give us his legendary wisdom on yet another big UK sports right deal going to Sky when we were being given the impression that the streaming giants were going to gobble all these big sports TV rights contracts up.;)

OLD BOY 12-09-2017 09:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35916129)
Where is OB :waving:;) when we need him as l am sure he will give us his legendary wisdom on yet another big UK sports right deal going to Sky when we were being given the impression that the streaming giants were going to gobble all these big sports TV rights contracts up.;)
Now, now, Den, you're twisting it a bit there! I actually posted about the Premier League, because I think that's where it will all start in earnest in the UK. I also said there were likely to be bids from the global players for these Premiership rights either this coming round or the next.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...pean-tv-peace/

'...Netflix and Amazon are already leading on US TV series, but they are also venturing into movies, non-scripted entertainment and increasingly local drama. “Sports is next,” says Exane.'

muppetman11 12-09-2017 10:04
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Sky Sports has strengthened its position as the home of football with a new deal to show live coverage of the EFL until 2024, offering Sky customers more matches and more ways to watch than ever before.


http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ches-than-ever

Dave42 12-09-2017 12:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35916136)
Sky Sports has strengthened its position as the home of football with a new deal to show live coverage of the EFL until 2024, offering Sky customers more matches and more ways to watch than ever before.


http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ches-than-ever
sky was always gonna do that and some people thought bt was gonna win EFL matches

Richc1977 13-09-2017 13:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35916159)
sky was always gonna do that and some people thought bt was gonna win EFL matches
The good news for non sky subscribes such as myself is there will at least be some games available for streaming direct from the EFL.

I'd definitely be interested in this to follow some of my teams matches who based on recent form will be back in the Championship by the time this starts.

Richc1977 14-09-2017 11:45
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On Sky Sports Mix this Friday 15th Sept, first PL game this season

Bournemouth V Brighton

Raider999 14-09-2017 16:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35916374)
On Sky Sports Mix this Friday 15th Sept, first PL game this season

Bournemouth V Brighton

Cracker, can't wait!

pengedragon 15-09-2017 21:37
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What's the deal with the Alvarez Golovkin fight tomorrow?
It's a Boxnation ppv. Can I just order this is in the same way as I would with a sky ppv?

bubblegun 16-09-2017 02:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35916667)
What's the deal with the Alvarez Golovkin fight tomorrow?
It's a Boxnation ppv. Can I just order this is in the same way as I would with a sky ppv?
I did an internet search which resulted in a, yes.
So, probably.

pengedragon 16-09-2017 09:52
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Just spoke to them on twitter. Subscribing to the channel will get me the fight in sd

OLD BOY 16-09-2017 10:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35916698)
Just spoke to them on twitter. Subscribing to the channel will get me the fight in sd
Better get the specs out, then!

pengedragon 16-09-2017 10:37
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My eyes are quite bad anyway so HD doest make a huge difference for me :D

Raider999 16-09-2017 23:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35916703)
My eyes are quite bad anyway so HD doest make a huge difference for me :D

This is a pet subject of mine - when sky sports first broadcast in HD the picture quality was superb, on close ups of action you could see individual blades of grass.

Then someone decided it was acceptable to compress the transmission and over the years the PQ of HD transmissions has gradually decreased.

Additionally I believe (I may be wrong) that the current SD picture is a HD recording further compressed so is better than the original SD picture was - hence many people find there is little difference in PQ between HD and SD.

I would stress this opinion is based on my perception not on any fact (other than HD has been compressed more over the years - this is fact)

OLD BOY 17-09-2017 00:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35916781)
This is a pet subject of mine - when sky sports first broadcast in HD the picture quality was superb, on close ups of action you could see individual blades of grass.

Then someone decided it was acceptable to compress the transmission and over the years the PQ of HD transmissions has gradually decreased.

Additionally I believe (I may be wrong) that the current SD picture is a HD recording further compressed so is better than the original SD picture was - hence many people find there is little difference in PQ between HD and SD.

I would stress this opinion is based on my perception not on any fact (other than HD has been compressed more over the years - this is fact)
Perhaps UHD is the new HD!

telegramsam 17-09-2017 08:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35916781)
This is a pet subject of mine - when sky sports first broadcast in HD the picture quality was superb, on close ups of action you could see individual blades of grass.

Then someone decided it was acceptable to compress the transmission and over the years the PQ of HD transmissions has gradually decreased.
It makes one wonder if they have deliberately'do
Additionally I believe (I may be wrong) that the current SD picture is a HD recording further compressed so is better than the original SD picture was - hence many people find there is little difference in PQ between HD and SD.

I would stress this opinion is based on my perception not on any fact (other than HD has been compressed more over the years - this is fact)
It makes one wonder if they have deliberately 'degraded' the HD picture quality so as to make uhd more attractive!

Raider999 17-09-2017 09:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35916809)
It makes one wonder if they have deliberately 'degraded' the HD picture quality so as to make uhd more attractive!
As this process started soon after the introduction of HD that would have been forward thinking indeed.

In reality, I suspect the wishes of many subscribers to have more HD channels combined with the limited amount of satellite space led to ever more compression to squeeze more HD channels onto each satellite - resulting in compromising the picture quality

denphone 17-09-2017 09:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35916809)
It makes one wonder if they have deliberately 'degraded' the HD picture quality so as to make uhd more attractive!
So when these companies say to customers subscribe to us for our lovely shiny HD channels its all a load of ******** then?.

Mr K 17-09-2017 09:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35916814)
So when these companies say to customers subscribe to us for our lovely shiny HD channels its all a load of ******** then?.
About right Den,. all emperor's new clothes, used to be 3D - what happened to that?
I can honestly see only a slight difference between HD and SD but I don't have a 50ft TV. Tried but Mrs K said no.... :(
UHD will soon become UUHD, anything to screw more money out of us. Going to the actual ground gives the best definition and sound I find.

telegramsam 17-09-2017 11:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35916813)
As this process started soon after the introduction of HD that would have been forward thinking indeed.

In reality, I suspect the wishes of many subscribers to have more HD channels combined with the limited amount of satellite space led to ever more compression to squeeze more HD channels onto each satellite - resulting in compromising the picture quality
Fair point but still think they could be holding off improving HD picture quality so as to make uhd seem so much better!

Raider999 17-09-2017 15:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35916831)
Fair point but still think they could be holding off improving HD picture quality so as to make uhd seem so much better!

As stated in my previous post - HD used to be far better than it is now, so I cannot see your logic.

Alas, as VM do not carry Sky Sports UHD broadcasts I have no idea how much better UHD is and how it compares to the original days of HD.

Mad Max 17-09-2017 15:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35916866)
As stated in my previous post - HD used to be far better than it is now, so I cannot see your logic.

Alas, as VM do not carry Sky Sports UHD broadcasts I have no idea how much better UHD is and how it compares to the original days of HD.
Don't think I can agree with you there mate, I think it depends on the person viewing, everyone is different, I just watched the Chelsea V Arsenal game and I switched from the HD channel to SD, the PQ is like night and day imo.

telegramsam 17-09-2017 15:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35916866)
As stated in my previous post - HD used to be far better than it is now, so I cannot see your logic.

Alas, as VM do not carry Sky Sports UHD broadcasts I have no idea how much better UHD is and how it compares to the original days of HD.
Did it really used to be better or is it a case of you have got used to it?

Raider999 17-09-2017 16:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35916878)
Don't think I can agree with you there mate, I think it depends on the person viewing, everyone is different, I just watched the Chelsea V Arsenal game and I switched from the HD channel to SD, the PQ is like night and day imo.


Never said SD was as good as HD - I said HD is not as well defined now as it was at it's launch.

It was 21mbps (think that is the term) was compressed down to around 12-14 Mbps.

---------- Post added at 16:14 ---------- Previous post was at 16:12 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35916879)
Did it really used to be better or is it a case of you have got used to it?
Yes it really was better.

Not able to get UHD so I cannot comment on how much better it is than current HD or indeed HD at inception.

By definition compression reduces quality.

muppetman11 17-09-2017 16:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35916883)
It was 21mbps (think that is the term) was compressed down to around 12-14 Mbps.
That's a very simplified way of looking at it though , video codecs improve all the time allowing broadcasters to deliver HD broadcasts whilst saving bandwidth.

My viewing on a 55" TV set seems pretty good on both BT Sport HD and Sky Sports HD. Sky Sports UHD is better but certainly not the leap from SD to HD in my opinion.

Pbryanw 19-09-2017 23:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35916887)
My viewing on a 55" TV set seems pretty good on both BT Sport HD and Sky Sports HD. Sky Sports UHD is better but certainly not the leap from SD to HD in my opinion.
I think people underestimate how much effect the make, model & size of their TV will have on their HD picture.

My parents and I both have 40” Panasonic TVs but theirs is an older model which doesn’t scale HD sources very well. Whereas with my slightly newer & more expensive model, I can easily tell the difference between SD & HD.

Conversely, back when I had a 32” TV, which was one of the first 1080P LCD sets, both SD & HD looked the same. I’m sure the difference would become really noticeable on a good, 50”+ TV though. Anyway, back to the sport ;)

Richc1977 21-09-2017 18:56
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Next PL match on Mix features Brighton again, also on a Friday prior to an attractive Sunday double header

Friday 20th Oct 8pm West Ham v Brighton


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