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johnasimmons 15-11-2022 08:36
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Emailed to me from Virgin Media

From 14th December 2022, BoxNation will be closing on all platforms in the UK and will no longer be available.

Following on from the closure you will no longer be charged for BoxNation, and you’ll be automatically reimbursed if you’ve been billed for it already.

Thanks,

The Virgin Media team

1andrew1 15-11-2022 09:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36139979)
Emailed to me from Virgin Media

From 14th December 2022, BoxNation will be closing on all platforms in the UK and will no longer be available.

Following on from the closure you will no longer be charged for BoxNation, and you’ll be automatically reimbursed if you’ve been billed for it already.

Thanks,

The Virgin Media team
That makes sense as Premier Sports took over the brand licence in December 2019 so Viaplay are probably seeing out a three-year contract.

Maybe the brand will re-appear on a gambling app or web site but the all-you-can-eat boxing channel TV model does not seem to work financially.

TimeLord2018 01-12-2022 11:14
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The first noticeable changes on BT Sport since Warner Bros. Discovery Joint Venture, Live Alpine Skiing World Cup is on BT Sport 2 on Saturday as both Eurosport channels are shown Live Sport at that time.

Media Boy UK 01-12-2022 14:38
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Viaplay inks IHF handball deal

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...medium=twitter

TimeLord2018 15-12-2022 10:23
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US Open Tennis returning to Sky Sports from 2023
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...orts-from-2023

1andrew1 22-12-2022 23:24
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Something to gladden Old Boy's heart. :)
Quote:
Google agrees NFL streaming deal as Big Tech chases sports rights

YouTube’s $14bn push into US league’s Sunday Ticket service signals threat to traditional broadcasters

Google’s YouTube has secured rights to broadcast some US National Football League matches from next season, in a landmark deal that signals how Big Tech is reshaping the market for live sports rights.

The package, which will run seven years beginning in 2023, will give the video site the exclusive rights to the “Sunday Ticket” subscription service beginning next season. The service allows US fans to watch any game shown on the biggest game day of the week.

The deal, worth more than $14bn according to a person familiar with the matter, is an additional service on top of the NFL’s current 11-year, $110bn broadcast agreement agreed last year, the most expensive live sports rights in the world.

“It’s a very loud wake-up call for traditional media companies,” said the chief executive of a longtime bidder for sports rights. “First Apple and now this . . . television, cable and satellite companies will struggle to respond”.

Sunday Ticket is a subscription service which allows viewers to pay to watch out-of-market NFL games not available on their local CBS or Fox affiliate channels, a quirk of the geographically diverse US landscape and the dense football schedule, with most games scheduled on Sunday afternoons.
https://www.ft.com/content/44953d73-...3-65661643c5fe

epsilon 25-12-2022 20:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142475)
Something to gladden Old Boy's heart. :)

https://www.ft.com/content/44953d73-...3-65661643c5fe
If the UK market was as massive as the US market, maybe they would do something similar here, alas it isn't.

jfman 25-12-2022 21:48
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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36142611)
If the UK market was as massive as the US market, maybe they would do something similar here, alas it isn't.
I agree on the point of the massive market - but I'll also add that it's a seven year deal.

Rights owners on this side of the pond have traditionally viewed short windows (3 years) as keeping operators on their toes, allowing them to ride the crest of the pay-tv wave as it has increased.

However I've been banging the drum for some time now that a barrier to entry for anyone is that they start from 0 customers and have to turn that around in year 3 into a profit to run the risk of being dumped because someone else comes along to blow you out the water.

If the Premier League, UEFA or anyone else wants Silicon Valley to blow the incumbents out the water it needs to give them the space to develop a product offering and customer base and generate a return for a number of years. Equally it should invite disproportionately higher bids from incumbents for the same reason - it allows them to close the door on a challenge for a longer period.

1andrew1 26-12-2022 13:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36142611)
If the UK market was as massive as the US market, maybe they would do something similar here, alas it isn't.
Why the alas? I envisage this costing the end customer more.

jfman 26-12-2022 13:40
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142623)
Why the alas? I envisage this costing the end customer more.
I think he means from the perspective of those who predict it ;)

epsilon 26-12-2022 20:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142623)
Why the alas? I envisage this costing the end customer more.
Streaming generally does end up costing the end customer more. Jfman is correct, the "alas" is indeed meant to be from the perspective of those who predict it.

Aguero9320 27-12-2022 22:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36142614)
I agree on the point of the massive market - but I'll also add that it's a seven year deal.

Rights owners on this side of the pond have traditionally viewed short windows (3 years) as keeping operators on their toes, allowing them to ride the crest of the pay-tv wave as it has increased.

However I've been banging the drum for some time now that a barrier to entry for anyone is that they start from 0 customers and have to turn that around in year 3 into a profit to run the risk of being dumped because someone else comes along to blow you out the water.

If the Premier League, UEFA or anyone else wants Silicon Valley to blow the incumbents out the water it needs to give them the space to develop a product offering and customer base and generate a return for a number of years. Equally it should invite disproportionately higher bids from incumbents for the same reason - it allows them to close the door on a challenge for a longer period.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney+ (ESPN) or Paramount+ became serious competition bidding for sports rights. They’re both major players in the US and ESPN still exists, showing only college sports.

jfman 27-12-2022 23:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36142678)
I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney+ (ESPN) or Paramount+ became serious competition bidding for sports rights. They’re both major players in the US and ESPN still exists, showing only college sports.
They’ll defo be doing the sums. But unless 3 year deals or narrow geographic boundaries change the underlying economics of the business model doesn’t change.

1andrew1 28-12-2022 14:49
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That length of term issue is key when crucial rights like the Premier League are involved. I wonder what they will do at the next auction? Could they go for five years?

jfman 28-12-2022 15:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142709)
That length of term issue is key when crucial rights like the Premier League are involved. I wonder what they will do at the next auction? Could they go for five years?
My sense is that the Premier League are most risk averse. At £11bn the global TV rights is the golden goose that underpins the value of the “franchises” to use the US term.

Rolling over the old contracts under the guise of COVID suggests a trepidation around the uncertainty. The fall in the value of the UK 2019-22 rights - correctly foreseen by Sky - and being unable to draw “streamers” meaningfully into the auction raises a lot of questions. As we enter a recession (for how long?) and central banks raise interest rates one could easily argue the market is more, not less, precarious.

I suspect the Premier League would want to see someone else - UEFA, Bundesliga, Serie A, etc. test out a new model first and see how the sums add up.

A broadcaster - not known - was certainly in advanced talks regarding the proposed Super League. If anyone wants to revive it’s corpse they’ll also have to tread carefully before making long term commitments.

UEFA could potentially consider Europe-wide rights to bring a streamer to the table. Even secondary rights (first/second picks in a given territory being sold as they are now). This would give a streaming service a massive market (400m+ people) and content most months of the season - a springboard from which to take on domestic leagues and cups around Europe.


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