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Hugh 06-08-2019 18:09
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36005116)
Hey, we could end like Belgium who didn't have a government for 535 days after their General Election in 2010 - https://brussels-express.eu/fun-fact...ut-government/

If Boris refused to go, I could see the Queen passing the buck to the Privy Council to sort things. There are some right characters in there - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Privy_Council
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How did the Belgians make it through the crisis?

Belgium managed its national affairs under a caretaker government run by Leterme.

OLD BOY 06-08-2019 20:01
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36005065)
You forgot to add the important part that Johnson told the EU that he will not talk to them unless the backstop is removed:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...scrap-backstop



In fact, the Leavers pulling Johnson's strings are quite brazen about it:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...enario-eu-told



This whole deal spin is just a sham. Those who control the PM just want the ruinous No Deal. Nothing else. In fact the ERG are quite open about it:

Mark Francois says ERG will vote down Withdrawal Agreement even if Boris Johnson gets rid of the backstop

So even if the EU cave in which is unlikely, the ERG would impose their vision of hell on this country.
No deal is not 'ruinous' and Parliament won't approve a deal containing a backstop.

Chris 06-08-2019 20:17
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Also, there are plenty of Labour backbenchers who voted against the WA three times and are now waking up to the fact that all they may have achieved is to bring about the default alternative outcome, namely No Deal. If any kind of revised WA is put before the Commons, don’t be surprised to see it carried if not by Labour votes, but by a lot of Labour abstentions.

The ERG won’t be able to prevent a deal - if one is forthcoming of course.

1andrew1 06-08-2019 20:18
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
Some great measured and informative posts in this thread recently in particular from BenMcr, Chris and Damien. Thanks, guys.

denphone 08-08-2019 18:06
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
No 10 refuses to rule out election shortly after 31 October Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...october-brexit

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Speculation about the timing of an autumn election is rife as Downing Street tries to figure out how to deal with the fallout if Tory rebels join with opposition parties to vote down the government.
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No 10 did not deny that this could be a possible course of action in the event of losing a no-confidence vote, after the Spectator mooted the possible date of a post-Brexit election as 1 November and the FT reported it would happen in the “days after”.
Pretty inevitable l would say.

Mr K 08-08-2019 19:53
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005346)
No 10 refuses to rule out election shortly after 31 October Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...october-brexit


Pretty inevitable l would say.
Great time to call an election if the country is in chaos. That's going to work out really well for the 'governing' party and the last thing we need at such a time.

denphone 08-08-2019 20:52
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36005360)
Great time to call an election if the country is in chaos. That's going to work out really well for the 'governing' party and the last thing we need at such a time.
Well we did not need a election when Theresa May called one and that did not end very well did it as we have had ensuing chaos since..

heero_yuy 09-08-2019 11:20
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
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Quote from The Sun:The Tories have opened up a nine point lead over Labour as they enjoy a ‘Boris bounce’ in the wake of the new Prime Minister taking office.

According to a new poll, the Conservatives are now head on 33 per cent with Labour on 22 per cent just one point ahead of a resurgent Lib Dems.
Boris has certainly hit the ground running. A total contrast to the stalled govenment under lackluster May.

Full results and commentary on red link.

Hugh 09-08-2019 12:08
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36005412)
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Quote from The Sun:

The Tories have opened up a nine point lead over Labour as they enjoy a ‘Boris bounce’ in the wake of the new Prime Minister taking office.

According to a new poll, the Conservatives are now head on 33 per cent with Labour on 22 per cent just one point ahead of a resurgent Lib Dems.
Boris has certainly hit the ground running. A total contrast to the stalled govenment under lackluster May.

Full results and commentary on red link.
Strange - the YouGov site for that poll shows Tories on 31%, Labour on 22%, and LibDems on 21%.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...em-21-brex-14-
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The latest YouGov/Times voting intention survey sees the Conservatives continue to enjoy the benefits of the Boris Bounce, with the party's 31% vote share leading Labour's 22% and the Lib Dems' 21%.

Elsewhere, the Brexit Party holds on 14% of the vote and the Greens likewise have 7%.

Boris Johnson is still the public's preferred Prime Minister over Jeremy Corbyn, with twice as many people choosing the former (39%) over the latter (19%). A further 37% of people can't choose between the two.

heero_yuy 09-08-2019 12:39
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
Looks like a typo as the headline to the piece says a 9 point lead.

nomadking 09-08-2019 12:48
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
There isn't time to discuss, negotiate, agree, and implement any currently non-existent deal before Oct 31.


Link
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Jeremy Corbyn has urged the UK's most senior civil servant to intervene to prevent a no-deal Brexit happening during a general election campaign.
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He has written to Cabinet Secretary Sir Mark Sedwill saying such a move would be an "anti-democratic abuse of power".
Agreeing to a currently non-existent deal would be an even greater abuse of power.

jfman 09-08-2019 12:53
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
Dun dun dun dun.

Here comes the recession.

Mr K 09-08-2019 12:55
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36005412)
Boris has certainly hit the ground running. A total contrast to the stalled govenment under lackluster May.

Full results and commentary on red link.
He's promised to spend on everything, borrow it all and has so far delivered nothing. God knows what his supporters would say if was a Labour PM doing this. His fall will be even quicker than his rise.

Back in the real world our economy has just contracted, wonder why ?
https://www.theguardian.com/business...y_to_clipboard

denphone 09-08-2019 13:03
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005428)
Dun dun dun dun.

Here comes the recession.
Thats pretty inevitable..

jfman 09-08-2019 13:06
Re: [Update 2] PM Boris forms a government
 
Project Fear in a recession could actually be quite an entertaining watch. Johnson standing there saying everything will be fine as everything collapses around him.


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