Cable Forum - The state benefits system mega-thread.

For example the tester could just not like the person he is testing and lie.

Same as the testee could just lie about what happened.

I'm sure the on occasion the ATOS people lie it's inherent to human nature.

To suggest that anyone doing work for ATOS will NEVER lie is just odd.

Absolute crap ,people lie if they have something to gain ,what does ATOS have to gain ?

dilli-theclaw

21-03-2014 21:02

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35682312)

Absolute crap ,people lie if they have something to gain ,what does ATOS have to gain ?

You don't think sometimes people lie just because they don't like someone?

peanut

21-03-2014 21:03

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35682312)

Absolute crap ,people lie if they have something to gain ,what does ATOS have to gain ?

To meet targets perhaps.

tizmeinnit

21-03-2014 21:07

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35682314)

To meet targets perhaps.

exactly this

denphone

21-03-2014 21:12

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Indeed some privates companies have a increasing habit of deceiving to make more profits.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...illions-pounds

dilli-theclaw

21-03-2014 21:14

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Also of course just because the company doesn't 'have a policy of lying' doesn't mean it's staff feel the same way.

martyh

21-03-2014 21:18

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Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35682313)

You don't think sometimes people lie just because they don't like someone?

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35682314)

To meet targets perhaps.

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35682316)

exactly this

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35682317)

Indeed some privates companies have a increasing habit of deceiving to make more profits.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...illions-pounds

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Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35682318)

Also of course just because the company doesn't 'have a policy of lying' doesn't mean it's staff feel the same way.

Jesus ,do you lot realise how paranoid and ridiculous you sound ,.......everybody are liars and out to get you :rolleyes:

peanut

21-03-2014 21:19

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Atos assessors have been accused of falsifying or twisting information in order to deny ESA in a bid to reach government targets - a claim the DWP and Atos vehemently deny. In 2012, the BBC broadcast a Panorama documentary about the new WCA called Disabled or Faking it? in which the former employment minister, Chris Grayling, said: "there are no targets anywhere in the system." But, when the BBC asked to see the DWP’s full contract with Atos, the government refused.

Last year, several former employees have also come forward to tell their story. Dr. Greg Wood, a former Atos assessor, told the BBC: "I was instructed to change my reports, to reduce the number of points that might be awarded to the claimants. I felt that was wrong professionally and ethically.” Another whistleblower, Joyce Drummund, a former Atos Nurse, told a Scottish newspaper, the Daily Record that she was instructed to mark down claimants she knew were unfit for work

http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourking...failing-uk’s-m

tizmeinnit

21-03-2014 21:19

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35682319)

Maybe they do but,"they lie saying the ill are fit to work" and "They lie end of" is what i replied to and what i think is an idiotic statement

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Jesus ,do you lot realise how paranoid and ridiculous you sound ,.......everybody are liars and out to get you :rolleyes:

well if they lie to say the ill are fit for work then they also lie end of

You are right everybody does lie even you of that I am sure

denphone

21-03-2014 21:23

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Its nothing about being paranoid at all but just stating facts that some might find hard to digest due to their slanted bias and prejudice towards certain subjects and threads.

martyh

21-03-2014 21:33

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35682323)

Its nothing about being paranoid at all but just stating facts that some might find hard to digest due to their slanted bias and prejudice towards certain subjects and threads.

so nothing to do with paranoia then ..........

Den you and some others on here really need to stop thinking that everybody is against you if everybody doesn't agree with you

dilli-theclaw

21-03-2014 21:33

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35682319)