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Depends how you look at it, it would be cheaper for many. If like myself you are no Sky lover and either have BT Sport via BT Tv or Virgin Media Full House etc... it currently costs you considerably more if I want to add Sky Sports to get EFL. BT might increase the cost a bit but I doubt it will be an extra £25-£30+ or the £xx for box sets plus an extra £18pm plus the bull***t HD charge

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Agreed, the b???????t HD charge for sports (no such charge for Movies) is ridiculous, especially these days where HD is pretty much standard - you would have thought they would charge extra for UHD.

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Rumour update, well all sorts of different variations on what's happened over night but I suppose the most viable one is what Charles Sale is saying in his Daily Mail column that there could be a second round of bidding for EFL rights.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...TV-rights.html

Every time Sky have lost to BT in the initial round of bids they have always won in the second round. Hence why BT had to blow them out of the water for CL.

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think sky will win myself

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BT reduce the price of Sky sports by up to £6

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-tv-drops-...orts-channels/

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but they only getting 2 channels utter crap deal that

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Yeah its what customers where being charged for SKY Sports 1&2. No real difference.

The best deal so far was Talk Talks. Youview box, line rental, 17mb broadband and SKY Sports for £28.50 per month. No up front fees and price fixed for 18 months.

SKY's deal is pretty decent too. SKY Sports for £20 per month but you have to commit to a new £18 month deal. HD free for first 6 months.

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If it has gone to a second round then I agree Sky will win.

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BBC expands FA Cup coverage

https://www.sportbusiness.com/sport-...a-cup-coverage

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Problem with that deal is it's talktalk i don't think i need to say anything else lol.

Sky have offered me the £20p/m deal i'm waiting a bit as had info it's dropping to £12p/m for 18 months soon.

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BT's price reduction is until August 19th only from the 20th it will revert back to the old prices £27.50/£33.50

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Link doesn't seem to be working

Just been offered Sky Sports at 20 quid a month by retentions, is that the standard discount being offered at the moment?

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Same price as what Sky are charging

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I won't even consider that Sky Sports offer of £20 a month you are then tied to Sky for another 18 months and must keep the Sports for the complete term. No thanks 18 months is a long time.

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Ally McCoist to join BT Sport team

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...tton-1-4522337

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Hi all, Where is sky sports Mix? I have the minimum tv package and I subscribe to sky sports HD package. Thanks

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510 HD or 520 SD for sky sports mix

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Yeah. It says "channel not subscribed" despite me paying close to £100 a month to Virgin Media.

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are you on full house package

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As I said, I pay for minimum tv package and HD Sky Sports. Last bill = £96

I would like to watch the super rugby grand final in 1 hour's time. How can I watch this channel?

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This is genuinely hilarious. Get this...

I signed up for sky sports HD in early June
I cancelled on July 18th
I still pay for sky sports HD up until August 18th
Sky sports rebranded on July 19th

That means that despite signing up to all the sky sports channels including sky sports mix, I do not get that channel now because Sky Sports rebranded it from Sky Sports Mix channel 507 to sky sports mix channel 510. A day after I cancelled.

:D:D:D

£100 odd quid for this and they have taken a channel away.

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You're are missing a good game;)

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Ah don't worry. I'm watching by alternative means. Which is what I shall be doing from here to eternity instead of subscribing to sky sports.

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EFL 'to double TV rights income'

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/off-the-...me_304232.html

So much from some great sages of this forum saying sports rights bids would be reducing.;)

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was always gonna go up Den

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According to some on here their thinking was rather different.;):D

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You can hardly compare £180 million for EPL with the £5.1 billion for the Premier league. Lets just wait and see what happens with The Premier League rights.

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will be higher money next time again

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Isn't the championship like 4th best league in the world now though?

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BT football strategy up in the air after shock substitution

A sudden power shift at BT has triggered the exit of a key architect of its multibillion-pound football spending spree and cast new uncertainty over its bidding in a forthcoming auction of Premier League rights.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-substitution/

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Well if previous history is our great barometer the outcome is inevitable.:)

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Its pretty popular amongst the football class that is for sure.

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Interesting piece, if BT do change strategy, it could open things up for others.

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GINX has secured global rights to the International Dota 2 Championships 2017.

This coverage will be available to VM customers.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...siast-network/

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Fingers crossed BT stop trying to take sky sports on as we all have to pay extra then....Perhaps BT will go the way of Setanta and ESPN eventually... The curse of Steve McManaman will continue as the pundit with 3 dead channels hanging over him.

Get the champions league back to sky too and take the microphone away from Michael Owen and the world will be a better place

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Glad you posted this here OB as esports is growing very fast.

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So you're happy for SKY to keep raising prices with no competition then?

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Better than 2 competitors raising prices

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People in Italy in Germany are saying the same about SKY as you are about BT since they have come in and shaken up their markets.

However, regarding Michael Owen, I'll give you that ;) Although he seems to be pretty much a pundit nowadays. Don't think he did a single PL commentary last season. Thought Lampard came across well yesterday, a good addition.

As I have and will always boycott SKY I personally think the world is a better place as now I have access to decent sports content.

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I'm waiting for an interloper (could be Amazon) to oubid Sky and confound the naysayers by providing a sports service that is rather cheaper than people have to fork out for now.

Competition is, ultimately, a good thing.

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only ever means much higher prices OB so got to disagree

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Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!

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realist as competition always makes prices higher as with sport soon as sky had to lose all the football bills much higher

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You will be waiting a long time OB so much so that your hair will be grey and probably balding by then..;)

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You might be in for a nasty shock sooner then you think.

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Do you have anything to support that view, Den? :confused:

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No, Dave, competition has the effect of bringing prices down. Monopolies push them up.

With TV sport in this country, we have seen a negative impact initially, but this will right itself.

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History and market economics.;)

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You sure about that as watching sport has nearly doubled in price these last few years for those who have both big sports packages.

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You mean apart from when they took away free delivery and make you buy other stuff before they'll even send you some items?

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Well competition for premier football rights certainly had that effect - not!

Since BT got involved you have to pay for BT sports and Sky Sports to get all the games - true there are now more games on tv, but to watch the top matches you need both

End result, having to pay more!

If Amazon (or any 3rd party) win some of the rights from Sky/BT this will only get worse.

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From the other thread, BT Sport UHD is coming according to retentions

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Not if you are a Prime customer.

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Still not free postage though is it really?

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It isn't until 2019 at earliest.

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No, it won't get worse if there is more competition. There have not been sufficient contenders to bring the price down yet, and price wise, Sky and BT are not the best combination!

The involvement of Amazon, Google and/or Twitter will make all the difference.

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I presume you are saying that you pay for delivery via the £79 subscription. Although that is true, I took out that subscription for the TV service, and I pay no more than I pay to Netflix, so as far as I am concerned, yes it's free. Whatever view you take on that, you must admit, it's pretty good value for money.

On your second point, are you sure that VM are not in negotiations with BT on this?

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I do believe that beIN Sports will enter the UK Market

Plenty of signs that indicate this will happen sooner rather than later

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Yes, I have been anticipating this for a while, but it takes so long!

I guess this is why Den is so sceptical of future change!

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beIN Sports would be healthy for the UK market imo, I thought they would have entered in 2013

Would be a refreshing change

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wrong bill rocket when competition look what happened with phone bill train fares electric bill ect all when up never down

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Isn't it next summer the current BT Sport deal runs out? maybe they could negotiate for it then?

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And does not that tell you something as its hot air and not much else OB.

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Its alright OB you can call me a fuddy duddy if you want but remember with that comes a little bit of wisdom although for wisdom and forethought l am certainly not in your league OB.;)

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I don't use Amazon mate not after working there and seeing how they treat their staff.
For second point very certain not one source has mentioned this to us.

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Not Bein sport.
Keep a eye on NBC.

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was much cheaper when sky had all the football like just sayng ;)

PS competition always means higher prices

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Inflation sir although companies seem to like raising prices way above inflation.
I think we're close to the point where people are going to say "enough is enough" and the premier league bubble is going to burst, i say premier league as really that's what's pushed prices up so much.

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bet next bids are higher

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It's funny how you publicly condemn Sky and consider it a bully and yet almost champion Amazon. You don't think Amazon is getting to big because many in the US are starting to think that way.

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If OB thinks Amazon are there for the widespread benefit of the customer then he certainly is deluded.

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Absolutely agree with you.

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I don't understand where you are coming from here.

I think most people will acknowledge that Sky has a reputation for high prices and Amazon the reverse.

Why would I be concerned about the size of Amazon? That sounds to me more of a political view. I am concerned about customer experience.

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Almost without a doubt. That doesn't necessarily mean that higher prices will follow. Although if the winners were indeed Sky and BT, they probably would rise!

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Amazon are giving a pretty good customer service and lower prices. That's good enough for me.

Their raisin d'etre, of course, is profit. I know that to some, profit is a dirty word, but the mods don't seem to mind.

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You sure about that?.

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You need to get out more as your obsession with politics is rubbing off on your thinking.;)

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Higher prices will follow end of...

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Profit will always come before customer service and lower prices and the sooner you realise that then we will move on to lesson B tomorrow.;)

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In what universe exactly ?
I have never heard anyone say Amazon has a reputation for low prices.

This is the same Amazon that put the cost of Prime up from £49 to £79 in 2014, forcing you to have the streaming, whether you wanted it or not.

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Important breaking sports rights news

Got my dad's Sky Go extra login in exchange for my 2nd TV anywhere device so we are both covered for the season #allthefootball :D

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But that was a change in the nature of the service they were offering.

I thought most people regarded Amazon Prime prices as being rather lower than elsewhere. I've heard it all now!

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Seriously, Den. Politics? I'm not the one who raised issues such 'they are getting too big' and 'how they treat their staff', which are irrelevant to this argument.

If it is not understood that competition leads to lower prices, maybe some tuition on economics is required. There have not been enough players for the Premiership Football rights to demonstrate this to date, but as more competition comes in, things can start to change. I've already outlined how Amazon (as an example) could bid more yet lower prices, and to say that higher prices will follow 'end of' does rather indicate that you have a closed mind on this subject, Den.

Profit is certainly the prime motivator for all companies, but lower pricing gets you a better share of the market. Sometimes, it's the only way to get into that market.

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why keep on about this myth please tell us what happened to price with competition between sky vm and bt OB when did they ever become lower

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l think if anyone's mind is closed on certain things regarding the TV market then perhaps you might see his image in your mirror.;)

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Rose tinted glasses and ivory towers spring to mind Dave.;)

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Alan Pardew joins Sky Sports

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...the-new-season

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I notice Ian Wright is joining him tonight on 'The Debate' I wonder if he is joining SKY as well?

Perhaps going for a full house, he's been a pundit for BBC, ITV, Ch4 and BT already this year.

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KCOM fined £900,000 for failing to ensure people could make 999 calls after flooding in York from Storm Eva hit the telephone exchange

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But that's the result of not enough competition, which is made worse by Sky's monopolistic practices. Netflix and Amazon are gradually breaking this mould and - oh look - what reasonable prices for a huge chunk of content!

Sky/BT/VM prices will become more reasonable as such competition increases, because otherwise, cord cutting will put them in an unsustainable position. I think the loss of Premiership football to Amazon, Google, Twitter or Netflix will hasten the process of price reductions for cable and satellite services. OTT services are a real threat to the existing order, I'm surprised you can't see that.

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When are you going to put some substance to these random comments you are throwing in, Den? You have been saying for some time that the things that I am raising will never happen, but you never give your reasons.

I guess you must be satisfied with the status quo, Den, or you wouldn't be so against these ideas, which makes me wonder why you keep complaining about these constant price increases.

Nothing lasts forever, and the existing order of things will soon change.

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Sky sports now £22 a month for 1 year with VM

Offer not open to existing Sky sports or movies customers

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So after all the excitement at the end of last week Sky set to retain EFL rights with highlights moving to ITV (not confirmed but if they are reporting it so it's probably true)

https://www.theguardian.com/football...0m-a-year-deal

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Interested in what ITV plan to do. Hopefully it won't go head to head with Match of the Day. That would be suicide.

All the reports of SKY's dominance being in decline appear to be nothing more than speculation and wishful thinking. Does anyone realistically think they will lose their grip over Premiership rights? They appear to have reserves of money available that BT don't.

There has to be a point when inflated sports costs plateau. Analysts have been saying this for nearly 5 years now but we're still not seeing it happening. Something has got to give somewhere surely?

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Perhaps OB can give us his wise explanation ;) as he has been predicting all sorts of happenings with Sky losing its grip and dominance increasingly to the streaming giants but alas like you l see no sign of it.

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Look at the states as their big sports TV rights keep rising and rising and l can see the same thing playing out with our big sports rights as well

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Chad has referred only to Sky and BT. I agree with him that while the competition is between those two, Sky will probably continue to win every time, as long as they can maintain or increase their audience share.

The problem for Sky is that there are other challengers waiting in the wings. They have even bigger pockets than Sky and could outbid them if they wanted to. The big question is, will they do so, and will this translate into even higher prices, which is clearly what you believe, or will the new players have different models that see lower prices to bring in a bigger audience and help to combat piracy, and will they sell on their rights to enhance the income to pay for this so that at least some matches can be shown on more platforms?

For these answers, we will have to wait and see. However, simply to respond doggedly that it will never happen without giving an explanation does not really contribute to this debate convincingly, although that view may be your genuinely held opinion.

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Alan Brazil facing the axe from talkSPORT breakfast with Jeff Stelling lined up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ings-fall.html

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You seem to be changing your argument every day OB as first you said it was inevitable that Sky would lose the big Premier league rights to the big new shiny rivals and now you seem to be backtracking from that stance and now say you are not so sure so which one is it? as my stance has always been the same for the simple reason in that Sky will not give up the big PL football rights in a month of Sundays even if the bidding rights auction increases by 20% plus and even if it means higher prices for customers as do you think the streaming giants are suddenly going to win these rights by bidding £6 or 7 billion and then do you think they are going to be giving it to their subscribers for diddly squat because if you believe that then you need to come down from the planet Zarg as that ain't going happen and the sooner you realise that the better.

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I'm not changing my argument at all, where did you get that from? I said 'the big question is, will they do so?' But I was merely reflecting the fact that you and some others were denying this will happen. Clearly, I don't agree with that view and I think change is inevitable.

Your view that Sky would pay anything to retain these rights does not make business sense, has been contradicted by Sky itself and is clearly nonsense. Sky know perfectly well that the more they put up prices now, the more subscribers they will lose and piracy will start to go through the roof. If customer resistence results in subscribers leaving in droves, where's the profit coming from? You yourself remind us constantly that these companies are purely motivated by profit and you come out with this!

You are clearly not listening to the reasoned arguments being made here. An Amazon type global player will come in with a different model if they wish to break into this market as I firmly believe at least one of them will - if not this time, then next. This will enable them to bid high but then recoup their money by reducing the price of subscriptions. That will attract more customers and will help in the fight againsy piracy. Instead of hogging matches to itself as Sky does, it would bring in other platforms, for which they would be charged. The terrestrials would be able to buy selected matches as well. Basically, a range of new ways would be introduced to make money from these rights. They would not tie one hand behind their backs as Sky does as a result of its overwhelming desire to force as many people as possible to use its own platform to receive content. Whether people subscribe via their own website, through Sky, VM, BT, Talk Talk or wherever would not matter because they would still get their share of the revenue.

It's time to take off those blinkers, Den, before the reality hits you between the eyes! ;)

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Sorry but as usual that sounds mostly fantasy land.

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Sorry, but that is just a lack of imagination. You'll see.

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The story that keeps on giving,

first it was BT (digital spy forum rumour),
then £180m bid and so close it's gone to a second round (Daily Mail),
then SKY have won for £180m with highlights on ITV (Guardian),
and now SKY have won for £120m and it didn't go to second round with highlights on CH5 (Daily Mail)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...120m-year.html

Care to have a flutter on what next, Amazon?

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That's because you are not paying attention, Den.

There are references to this in various places in the media, eg:

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...buts-watch-tv/

Did you get to the last paragraph?

Saying time and time again that something won't ever happen does not make it so. The evidence of coming change is there in plain sight, but I think you will maintain your mental barriers to this coming sea change until it finally washes over you. Ignore the mounting evidence if you wish, this is not my 'fantasy world' - the evidence comes from increasing reporting on this in the media.

I still don't understand why you seem to think this is such a bad thing. You come out with this stuff but you never explain yourself. :waving:

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I agree with OB on the above.

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l have read the last paragraph OB just as you said and just as you have said the fantasy world is alive and well but alas its firmly pointing in your direction.;)

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So do you have any information (eg links) that contradict what that article and many others point to (ie that OTT services are expanding and sooner or later they will take over the football premiership rights)?

C'mon, do tell, Den, or have you slapped a DNP order on your thoughts? ;)

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Spending on Premier League rights is in a whole different league to spending on Tennis.

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I agree, however I would not discount it but only in the distant future.

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Oh I absolutely agree further down the line.

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https://amp.theguardian.com/media/20...out-extra-600m

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Sky faces paying extra £1.8bn for Premier League broadcast rights

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...out-extra-600m

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Visiting family last night OB so one could not offer my uneducated thoughts on it but then again you know my thoughts on it don't you?.;)

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Trust that great wisdom of yours to come to the fore again MM.:)

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inevitable as it is inevitable that they will win most of the rights as well.

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We can all correctly guess who'll be picking that bill up, yup us the consumer.

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Also Sky's shareholders as its profits have recently declined in part due to PL costs.

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Which is why Sky have a limit to what they are prepared to pay for the Premiership rights.

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This is the kind of approach I was writing about earlier - sub licensing out sports rights to other broadcasters to maximise income.

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/73007...an-pubcasters/

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I can't see Amazon being interested, as for BEIN sports i thought last time they said the market in the UK is too mature, in other words they're stupidly priced.

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Correct.

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Have they told you that..;)

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didn't you agree with OB that competition drives down prices when the FACT is it drives up prices

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No i said competition is good, regardless of if there was competition or not these companies will always milk us for what they can hence why i've cut the cord enough was enough.
The only thing that is FACT driving up prices is greedy ponces in the premier league who roll around like a barrel on a hill if they so much as get a gust of wind into them, Hell Ronaldo got knocked down by a moth (that is tongue in cheek btw).
FACT agents are also driving up prices.
So regardless if the rights were held by one company or half a dozen you'd most likely still be paying what you are now.

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It's not a FACT!

You need to read a bit of economic theory. Competition will ultimately get the required result, but it doesn't always come about immediately, particularly when there are barriers to true competition.