Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

More clutter or are they really such bad lot of scriptors?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

nah , i phink they are trying to work out how cookies work so they understand how to phorge them :P

peter

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

in case anyone is wondering:
http://www.cdt.org/privacy/20051103istcomplaint.pdf

See http://www.inphormationdesk.org/attributions.htm for other attributions.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Every time Phorm get a PR release reprinted or a favorable writeup, we need to hammer the publisher with complaints. I think we can do much more damage to Phorm associates than we realise. Nobody wants to drink from a poison chalice!

Huntsworth are the parent company of Phorms PR firm.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I just tried this out. I now know where Phorm got the algorithm to help the PhormPR team out with their cut and paste responses to questions and points made. Obviously, this model is a later model and is a little more sophisticated judging by the final Q&A you displayed regarding Rob.

Is it possible that this is where BT gets its legal advice from? It has been a big secret. I wonder if you may well have accidentally stumbled on the answer Pete.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Déja vu, anyone?
(My bold, btw)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I am actually going to contact CDT tomorrow and find out what the result of their complaint to the commission was and whether or not any damages were awarded. The reason being that the document states ContextPlus jumped the country and changed their whois details to a Paris address, so it could be that CDT was never able to receive damages from ContextPlus (aka 121Media). So being the responsible citizen I am it seems only right that I let them know where they can now find Kent in order to retrieve said damages.

Oh and lets not forget, 121Media was "transferred" to Phorm Inc. as opposed to being a seperate entity, so they shouldn't be able to get out of liability since it was basically just a company name change, all assets and shares were transferred to the new name.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

It's the honest thing to do.

:clap::clap::clap:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

very interesting, similar wording to that used by phorm

peter

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pete this works on IIS, but has to be on a .shtml page as the get remote_addr is a server side include

just got to put the relevant ip ranges in

so going to do a redirect on my main page later with a banner like "checking your ISP before i allow you access to my site"

peter


<script language="javascript">

<!--
var ip = '<!--#echo var="REMOTE_ADDR"-->';
if (ip < "86.128.104.255" && ip > "86.128.104.1" ) {
alert("You are visiting this website from an ISP who uses Webwise from Phorm and so your access to this site is blocked ,

your IP is " +ip);
if (confirm("Click OK to learn more at nodpi.org or CANCEL to go to webwise opt out page "))
{location.href="https://nodpi.org" } else {location.href="http://webwise.bt.com" }
}
// -->
</script>

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Pete,

Would it possible to write a firefox addon which defaults Firefox to HTTP 1.0 so it will ignore the 307 requests? I am curious as to whether this would bypass the DPI kit or go into an infinite loop.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

alex,

in the internet option, advanced tab there are 2 tick boxes about using http 1.1, would unticking these revert IE to http 1.0 and block the 307 redirects as well?

peter

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I think if you deselect them it would seem the browser won't respond to 307 responses but I have no way of testing it as I am currently in Vista due to a bug in the latest Ubuntu kernel so I can't set up Squid. Anyone got a Unix/Linux server they want to set up Squid on to test 307 responses?

OK a friend of mine is running Squid so were are going to test this in a couple of hours, I will let you all know what happens.

My thoughts are that this will cause an infinite loop, which won't help anything, however if it doesn't cause an infinite loop it might be a useful tool to bypass the 307 dance. I have no idea what impact this would have on Phorm's kit though.

For example, if it causes an infinite loop, how many clients would it take to crash their switch or render it useless? If it doesn't cause a loop how will it be dealt with? Phorm have stated that they use user agent to detect non HTPP 1.1 browsers but they haven't actually said how they deal with them and there has been no discussion as to what happens with clients who are not in the list but have http 1.1 disabled.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Perhaps BT should drop Emma and move to Miss Deway she has much more class when asked about BT pimping the customers clicks..

http://www.msdewey.com/

and on that note I bid everyone a good night

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

indeed, as is reporting any copyright and IP infringments to the crown, so much so they stress "it is imperative ".

remember i said long ago, these copyright and Ip points had got legs, when everyone was hooked on nothing but Ripa ;)

from the ip and piracy page
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/crime/crime-wh...-reporting.htm
"
Reporting intellectual property crime

If you have concerns or are aware of any person that may be involved in IP crime, then you may report this through your local police https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/07/29.gif or trading standards https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/07/29.gif office. Alternatively, you may contact CrimeStoppers https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/07/29.gif.

Those people involved with IP crime are generally involved with other types of crime such as benefit fraud, drugs and people trafficking. Therefore, it is imperative that you report any instance of IP crime that you are aware of, to the enforcement authorities.

We are building an intelligence database (TellPat) which is being used by all the enforcement agencies to record any instances of IP crime.

The information held on the database will be analysed and the resulting intelligence reports will be used by the IP Crime Group to carry out future joint enforcement actions throughout the country.

"

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squid runs on windows , dont know if it works in vista though
http://squid.acmeconsulting.it/

legacy 2.6 and 2.7 with a Development release 3.0