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pip08456

21-02-2025 21:48

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36191657)

The relevant law does indeed mandate the suspension of all elections. This was discussed on BBC QT’s Ukraine special last night, which had a Ukrainian opposition MP on the panel. Elections are banned while the country is under martial law. So while Z could technically lift martial law and hold an election, why in the merry heck should he do so just because Donny and Elmo are jumping up and down in the playground calling him chicken? The country is invaded, 20% occupied and under daily bombardment. Even if Z had some legitimate choice about holding elections it would be daft to do so.

Elections is a Kremlin talking point, and if Trump has done one good thing this week it has been to allow himself to be goaded into showing his hand consists entirely of Kremlin talking points.

Could he though? He didn't implement Marshal Law. Ukraine parliament did. It is also they who have extended it several times.

Damien

21-02-2025 22:04

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It's incredible how much Trump doubles down on this.

I wasn't optimistic when he was elected but I thought that his ego would mean that he wouldn't want to be seen to have been played by Russia. That he might actually come up with something workable even if it meant Russia getting more than any of us would like. But he has completely been taken in by Putin, he repeats his talking points, he slams Ukraine and today he refused to agree with a Fox News interviewer that Putin is responsible for invading Ukraine.

With Elon Musk demanding access to everything within the Government and Trump doing whatever Putin wants at what point do our intelligence services hold back sharing information with the US?

Hugh	21-02-2025 23:01

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36191668)

Could he though? He didn't implement Marshal Law. Ukraine parliament did. It is also they who have extended it several times.

And in January 315 out of the 404 MPs voted to extend it until May 2025.

Chris

21-02-2025 23:33

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36191668)

Could he though? He didn't implement Marshal Law. Ukraine parliament did. It is also they who have extended it several times.

:tu:

thenry

22-02-2025 00:46

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36191667)

I'm not concerned by anonymous forum posters repeating Putin's talking points, but I am a little concerned when the President of the USA does.

I'm going to be one of those anonymous posters. Zelenskyy has gone everywhere crying about his countries position and all I've seen is mugs lap it up. He's yearning for strength to fight otherwise he's done for. Trump rightly pointed out he hasn't got the means to negotiate.

With regards to Zelenskyys approval rating, I bet it's high having successfully taken hand outs left right and center. That will however drop significantly if support were to be withdrawn. Trumps probably got something in mind and is talking of the consequence of those actions.

Hugh	22-02-2025 08:24

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...utType=comment

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The Trump administration abruptly dismissed the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and other senior officers on Friday night, as the Pentagon moves to bring the military’s leadership in line with its “America First” agenda. 

In a post on social media, President Donald Trump said he would replace Air Force Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. and would take the unusual step of tapping a little-known, retired three-star officer, Lt. Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine, as the next chairman. 

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, in a statement distributed shortly after Trump’s post, said he would dismiss five other senior officers, including Adm. Lisa Franchetti, the first woman to serve as chief of naval operations, and Gen. James Slife, a top Air Force officer.

Meanwhile…

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-...ay-2025-02-22/

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[/b] US could cut Ukraine's access to Starlink internet services over minerals, say sources[/b]

U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

Ukraine's continued access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the sources said.

Starlink provides crucial internet connectivity to war-torn Ukraine and its military.
The issue was raised again on Thursday during meetings between Keith Kellogg, the U.S. special Ukraine envoy, and Zelenskiy, said one of the sources, who was briefed on the talks.

During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the service if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations.

Pierre

22-02-2025 08:34

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36191665)

As has been pointed out the UK didn't hold elections during WW2 and we didn't even have the complicated of being partly occupied. How do you hold elections when a lot of your people are at war, fled abroad, under occupation or being bombed? Even if they held elections the next thing would be 'millions of postal votes! rigged!'

It's complete nonsense.

We were still at war in the Pacific, the war didn’t end in 1945, but I take your point.

Chris

22-02-2025 11:11

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36191678)

Based on your apparent belief in the above, for you to call anyone else a mug is … brave.

Hugh	22-02-2025 13:09

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36191693)

Based on your apparent belief in the above, for you to call anyone else a mug is … brave.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2025/02/3.jpg

:D

Chris

22-02-2025 13:40

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36191681)

We were still at war in the Pacific, the war didn’t end in 1945, but I take your point.

The war in the Pacific did end in 1945, 3 months after the end of the war in Europe. There was no existential threat to the UK despite Japan’s decision to keep fighting on in the face of defeat after defeat. Churchill’s decision to go to the country after VE rather than waiting for VJ rather underscores the point though don’t you think - an existential threat to the homeland is a vitally important determining factor. Just as Ukraine is facing now.

Hugh	22-02-2025 14:15

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Trump is channeling Judge Dredd…

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I’m… we are the Federal Law

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...vernor/681799/

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As Trump lectured the audience on his executive order banning transgender girls and women from participating in girls’ and women’s sports, he paused to single out Maine Governor Janet Mills.

“Are you not going to comply with it?” he demanded of her. “I’m complying with state and federal laws,” she replied. To this, Trump shot back, “We are the federal law.”

It is entirely possible that, if the state of Maine challenges the executive order, Trump will prevail legally. But what is important about this exchange is not whose interpretation of Title IX and the Administrative Procedure Act has a better chance to win five votes on the Supreme Court. It is that Trump is treating the law as coterminous with his own desires.

Trump then threatened Mills with the prospect of stripping away federal funding for her state: “You better do it, because you’re not going to get any federal funding at all if you don’t.” Legally, it is possible for the federal government to deny states certain funding streams under certain conditions. But Trump cannot simply cut Maine off financially because the state chooses to challenge a federal policy.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1740233677

Chris

22-02-2025 14:59

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A plague on both their houses.

Men do not belong in women’s sports. Boys do not belong in girls sports. Not ever, for any reason. Claiming ‘gender’ to get access to a sex category you do not belong to can never be allowed to be grounds for an exemption. Sports categories are sex based because sex is the necessary category for fairness, safety and inclusion.

Nevertheless, even a broken clock is right twice a day. The EO mandating respect for sex-based categories might be the only decent thing Trump has done. It doesn’t give him the right to behave like a Bourbon.

daveeb

22-02-2025 16:15

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36191701)

Absolutely this. :tu:

Maggy

22-02-2025 17:23

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I think Trump has become senile.

papa smurf

22-02-2025 17:27