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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36111362)

Yup, like a bad children's party, the clown's refusing to leave although the jokes have worn thin.

I see no mention of the numerous knife throwing acts?

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

FAO: Hugh and OLD BOY - I am giving you both an instruction to back off arguing with each other (and in other threads) sick of seeing the bickering between you both.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36111342)

When it walks like a lying duck, and sounds like a lying duck, it’s usually a lying duck…

Johnson is a duck ?
Well there goes the reptile theory :erm:

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36111378)

FAO: Hugh and OLD BOY - I am giving you both an instruction to back off arguing with each other (and in other threads) sick of seeing the bickering between you both.

:tu:

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Posted elsewhere:

Kay Burley on SKYNEWS this morning speaking to a senior retired police officer.
"If the PM is found guilty what happens"
Retired Police Officer " He would get a fixed penalty notice"
Kay Burley: "Is that a criminal record"
Retired Police Officer: "No"
Burley face dropped ......

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

However, if it's proven he has lied in Parliament about these things...

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36111400)

However, if it's proven he has lied in Parliament about these things...

………….then what?

It would have to be proven he deliberately lied, and was just not mistaken. If he was mistaken and he corrects himself…job done.

Even if he is found to have lied, the person that decides whether a minister should resign is……….the Prime Minister. So he would have to find himself guilty.

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It’s easier to get thrown out of the House of Commons for calling someone a liar than for lying itself.

Despite often coming under fire from disgruntled viewers, the Speaker of the House does not have any power to police the truthfulness of debates in the chamber.

And other codes of conduct which mention honesty, like the Nolan Principles and the Ministerial Code, are essentially voluntary.

In fact, much of the British political system rests on the assumption that politicians will choose to behave honourably, and there are few sanctions in place for those who defy the conventions.

Dr Alice Lilley from the Institute of Government told us: “Misleading Parliament is a serious matter.

“The convention has always been that ministers who mislead Parliament are expected to resign, and this is set out in the Ministerial Code. But enforcing this convention is more complicated.

“It is ultimately up to the prime minister to decide what happens to ministers judged to have broken the Code.

“And Parliament has very few powers to punish a minister for misleading it. The Commons Speaker might make some pointed remarks that make their irritation clear, but it isn’t their job to determine whether ministers are telling the truth—or the consequences if they aren’t.”

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...icians-who-lie

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36111405)

Then what? The Conservatives continue to nosedive in the polls, as the public is sick to death of Boris and his lies.
Even Labour is winning the CF poll, that should give them a wake up call if nothing else! ;)

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36111420)

Then what? The Conservatives continue to nosedive in the polls, as the public is sick to death of Boris and his lies.
Even Labour is winning the CF poll, that should give them a wake up call if nothing else! ;)

Agreed, willing to be proved wrong, but that's something that I don't think normally happens in the polls we have here, at this rate Paul may have to change the blue colour scheme!

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36111420)

Oh gee wizz, they’re currently winning by 1 vote. I got to lie down. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile….

BREAKING: Pen Farthing, Founder and owner of Nowzad dogs charity is to seek legal action over what he considers to be lies being told by media and MPs, in that animals were NOT put before human lives, he tweeted this a few hours ago:

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Originally Posted by Pen Farthing via Twitter

Ok @DanJarvisMP I can no longer take this mental anguish that you & other MPs are putting me through No-one was left behind to die because of me No-one. I am going to seek legal representation against you. I cannot take this anymore. It has to bloody stop. @BBCBreaking

@SkyNews @bbc5live @bbclaurak @theJeremyVine @UKLabour This constant onslaught of lies using my name and that our charity is unacceptable. I cannot take this anymore. We SAVED people. Deserving people. What do I have to so you tell the truth?

The level of abuse and hatred I am receiving because of the lies being portrayed from the media and certain MPs is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I thought I was mentally strong but now beginning to struggle with this.

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Seems a bit odd? From what I understand it's pretty cut and dry that there were limited amounts of flights and one of them was taken up by his plane, and people were left behind.

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Seemingly, another u-turn from the Met.

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The Metropolitan Police has asked senior civil servant Sue Gray to make "minimal reference" to events they are investigating in her report.

Ms Gray's inquiry into lockdown parties in Downing Street had been due to be released this week.

But the Met has asked her to leave out details of parties they are investigating for Covid rule-breaking.

In a statement, it said it wanted to "avoid any prejudice to our investigation".

On Tuesday, Met Commissioner Cressida Dick announced the force had launched its own inquiry after being handed information by Sue Gray.

It has since been unclear how much the Gray report would be able to say while a police investigation was under way.

The Met insists it has not asked for Ms Gray's report to be delayed.

In a statement on Friday, the force added it had not asked for "any limitations" on what her report says about gatherings that are not being investigated by its officers.

On Thursday, Boris Johnson insisted Ms Gray's report would be published "in full" - although he did not say when it was expected to be published.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60166997

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36111420)

Yes, by a staggering 42% v 36%!
[For any Johnson fans out there, don't worry, I don't think the sample size is sufficient nor the audience representative of UK voters, to draw any meaningful conclusions.]

In reality, the court of public opinion, just as they tried Blair and found him guilty, have tried Johnson and found him guilty. In the legal mind, both may well not be criminals but to many in the public mind they will be just that.

Johnson has become in a couple of years what Blair eventually became in a couple of terms- an electoral liability and not an electoral asset. The 20th May party has cut through. No.10 is paralysed and morale is low. The only way out is for Johnson to leave. It is in the national interests for a Prime Minister to focus on Ukraine and energy supplies. Not a Police investigation. The current incumbent is no longer able to do this.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

Dame Dick playing a blinder for the Establishment.

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So another set of inquiry's kicked into the long grass. Who would have thought it.So Boris will march on.

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Can be seen either way really. Ideally, you want the police to investigate this properly but obviously politically it helps him so can be seen as 'doing him a favour'. Really we shouldn't be in a situation where being investigated by the police is seen as helpful to a Prime Minister but here we are.