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Jaymoss 27-08-2022 11:48

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36132569)
how many more times. The producers do not set the prices.

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According the the Green and Organic mobs, the plant shouldn't exist as they want to ban fertiliser. How would that work?

as many times as you want cuz I do not accept it

Paul 27-08-2022 12:00

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36132564)
By taking control of our energy strategy and linking the price to the cost of extraction as opposed to having it controlled by speculation in essentially a financial market.

Which presumably you can only do if you are the one doing the actual extraction.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36132571)
as many times as you want cuz I do not accept it

Do enlighten us all then, how are they set ?

Jaymoss 27-08-2022 12:08

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36132572)
Which presumably you can only do if you are the one doing the actual extraction.

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Do enlighten us all then, how are they set ?

A lot of the time it is governed by OPEC. If they want prices to rise they hold back oil if they want them to drop they let it flow. In the current market with Russia's Gas not coming into Europe and high consumption in India and China the demand for what is available is high. So basically providers can charge what they want because demand is high a supplies are limited. You can tell me different and tell me some political reason for it but lets face those in real power are not the people who argue in parliaments across the world

jfman 27-08-2022 12:42

Re: The energy crisis
 
Can always just find a way to give it a nudge if you think it could go higher.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-env...t-62652133.amp

Chris 27-08-2022 16:06

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36132581)
Can always just find a way to give it a nudge if you think it could go higher.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-env...t-62652133.amp

Quite.

This is a war for which Russia has well prepared. While Europe (principally, Germany) was lashing itself to the Russian gas network and telling itself it was civilising the hordes, Putin was playing an extremely long game designed to make it extremely difficult for Western countries to seriously oppose his plans to reassert Moscow's influence in former Soviet territories.

Reliance on Russian gas ought in the first instance to have prevented any serious western response to Russian expansionism, a la Crimea 2014. Given that his attempt to actually conquer a neighbour demanded a strong response then plan B is to blunt that response over the longer term. Warm words from Paris and Berlin in the summer are one thing. It will be another matter once the home fires start going out this winter.

OLD BOY 27-08-2022 20:22

Re: The energy crisis
 
There’s nothing going warm about the coming winter. Buy your hot water bottles now!

Jaymoss 27-08-2022 20:35

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132629)
There’s nothing going warm about the coming winter. Buy your hot water bottles now!

last winter I just wrapped up in a sleeping bag and fully intend to do the same this winter

OLD BOY 27-08-2022 20:36

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36132632)
last winter I just wrapped up in a sleeping bag and fully intend to do the same this winter

I think I’ll not tell my wife about your ideal remedy! That’s grounds for divorce!!

Pierre 27-08-2022 20:40

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36132564)
By taking control of our energy strategy and linking the price to the cost of extraction as opposed to having it controlled by speculation in essentially a financial market.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=4237

I couldn’t have put it better myself. We just lack the will.

Intelligent bloke you’ve quoted there.

Jaymoss 27-08-2022 20:46

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132633)
I think I’ll not tell my wife about your ideal remedy! That’s grounds for divorce!!

I have survived worse winters than we get now with nothing but a damp tin box to live in. Although I am in poor health now but hey if a winter finishes me off I will become one less burden on the tax payer

OLD BOY 27-08-2022 21:00

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36132637)
I have survived worse winters than we get now with nothing but a damp tin box to live in. Although I am in poor health now but hey if a winter finishes me off I will become one less burden on the tax payer

And a sad loss to the Cable Forum, I should add! Stay safe.

Pierre 27-08-2022 23:33

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36132637)
I have survived worse winters than we get now with nothing but a damp tin box to live in. Although I am in poor health now but hey if a winter finishes me off I will become one less burden on the tax payer

Well when I was a kid we had to live in a rolled up newspaper, eat a handful of hot gravel a day, pay the mill owner to work and when we got home we’d get chopped up into a thousand pieces and my dad would dance on our graves.

Jaymoss 27-08-2022 23:51

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36132648)
Well when I was a kid we had to live in a rolled up newspaper, eat a handful of hot gravel a day, pay the mill owner to work and when we got home we’d get chopped up into a thousand pieces and my dad would dance on our graves.

Well am very sorry you had to go through that and am glad the kings horses and men manged to put you back together

richard-john56 28-08-2022 12:28

Re: The energy crisis
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36132648)
Well when I was a kid we had to live in a rolled up newspaper, eat a handful of hot gravel a day, pay the mill owner to work and when we got home we’d get chopped up into a thousand pieces and my dad would dance on our graves.

You were lucky

Mad Max 28-08-2022 12:35

Re: The energy crisis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36132648)
Well when I was a kid we had to live in a rolled up newspaper, eat a handful of hot gravel a day, pay the mill owner to work and when we got home we’d get chopped up into a thousand pieces and my dad would dance on our graves.


Luxury.:D


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