Cable Forum - Black Lives Matter

In order to be considered “accomplices,” [for racial justice] White employees must give up “comfort,” “guaranteed physical safety,” “expectations or presumptions of emotional safety,” “control over other people and over the land,” and “relationships with some other white people.”
White employees were also urged to give up “niceties from neighbors and colleagues,” “the certainty of your job,” and “accepting jobs and promotions when we are not qualified, including racial equity jobs.”

If giving up "guaranteed physical safety" means mixing more with Black people, isn't that implying that Black people are the actual problem?

Mr K	10-07-2020 09:49

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 36043070)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-c...hysical-safety

Words fail me................

Fox 'news' can have that effect, it's bad for your health...

nomadking

10-07-2020 10:28

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36043073)

Fox 'news' can have that effect, it's bad for your health...

Are you saying it's not true?:rolleyes:
I did a search for "Interrupting Internalized" to find other publications reporting the story. It's quite scary that the term has been used to imply White racism for several years. Even scarier when you read the articles.

The initial report came as a result of request from the Discovery Institute.

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Last month, the City of Seattle’s Office of Civil Rights sent an email inviting “white City employees” to attend a training session on “Interrupting Internalized Racial Superiority and Whiteness,” a program designed to help white workers examine their “complicity in the system of white supremacy” and “interrupt racism in ways that are accountable to Black, Indigenous and People of Color.”. Hoping to learn more, I submitted a public records request for all documentation related to the training. The results are disturbing.

NY Post
Washington Examiner

Carth

10-07-2020 11:35

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 36043070)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-c...hysical-safety

Words fail me................

Brilliant . . I wonder how many attended and are now confused about who they are, what they are, why they are and where they are :D

Imagine the reaction when (for example) a white police officer attends the scene of a Black gang fight and shouts to them "come on guys, give it a rest, I'm one of you now"

Only in America eh . . . for now :rolleyes:

nomadking

10-07-2020 12:05

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36043089)

Stop being so deluded. Tip of the iceberg stuff. The mindset has been in place in the US, Canada, and the UK for years. Difficult to nail down any search criteria.
Eg UK

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The Challenge of Racism in a Post Racism Society - Dr Isha Mckenzie-Mavinga
...

Tuckwell (2002) adds her thoughts on the silence, which occurs when the theme of racism is being discussed.
...
(P.138) White therapists need to get in touch with their deep-seated racist impulses. If we are to overcome the
internal racist within us, and find release from the guilt, fear and shame that bind us, we need to meet the
‘shadow’ side of our psyche and begin to integrate the acceptable parts of ourselves. (P.209)

US Last year

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People of color participate in affinity caucus in order to:
Provide a safe space for people of color to talk about and address experiences of
racism
Talk about racism and how it affects people of color without having to explain it to
white people
Gain tools to talk about racism
Create an alternative power base for people of color
Build relationships
Provide a space to address how internalized racism and internalized inferiority
can hold people of color and racial justice work back

White people participate in affinity caucusing in order
to:
Work through guilt, shame & other barriers that hold white people back from
engaging in race conversations and doing racial justice work
Ask questions and explore ideas that help white people learn about racism
without having to learn at the expense of people of color
Hold each other accountable for actions and behaviors
Build relationships
Gain tools to talk about racism, white supremacy and privilege
Remind white people that work needs to be done to dismantle racism every day

Carth

10-07-2020 12:24

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36043092)

Stop being so deluded. Tip of the iceberg stuff. The mindset has been in place in the US, Canada, and the UK for years. Difficult to nail down any search criteria.

Really? That's news to me.

Maybe I've missed it all, possibly due to my propensity for ignoring stuff pushed out by deadheads in order to make my life 'have more meaning and be more rewarding' . . . like theirs seems to be :D

nomadking

10-07-2020 12:52

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36043093)

The racist anti-White rhetoric and mindset has been around for years.

Sephiroth

10-07-2020 13:31

Re: Black Lives Matter

What exactly is "the internal racist within us"?

Is it a person who does not want his/her culture replaced by another culture?

Is it a person who fears the birth rate of a particular large minority? Is it a person who believes there is a master plan for this being managed from another country?

nomadking

10-07-2020 13:42

Re: Black Lives Matter

Who in their right mind wants give up...

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comfort,” “guaranteed physical safety,” “expectations or presumptions of emotional safety,” , “relationships with some other white people.”
White employees were also urged to give up “niceties from neighbors and colleagues,” “the certainty of your job,”

If being racist achieves your physical and emotional safety, isn't that a good idea?:confused:

Hugh	10-07-2020 15:17

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36043103)

What exactly is "the internal racist within us"?

Is it a person who does not want his/her culture replaced by another culture?

Is it a person who fears the birth rate of a particular large minority? Is it a person who believes there is a master plan for this being managed from another country?

As you are an avid advocate of the benefits of British Colonialism and our Imperial past, the irony of your statements is hilarious... :D

ianch99

10-07-2020 15:41

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36043117)

As you are an avid advocate of the benefits of British Colonialism and our Imperial past, the irony of your statements is hilarious... :D

:LOL: Priceless :)

Sephiroth

10-07-2020 18:23

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36043117)

As you are an avid advocate of the benefits of British Colonialism and our Imperial past, the irony of your statements is hilarious... :D

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36043119)

:LOL: Priceless :)

... and I expected nothing less from you.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36043117)

As you are an avid advocate of the benefits of British Colonialism and our Imperial past, the irony of your statements is hilarious... :D

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What Hugh highlighted from my post:
Is it a person who believes there is a master plan for this being managed from another country?

Did you deliberately misunderstand me or need I make it clearer? Is there a foreign country with a long term plan for taking over the UK by a different culture?

Hugh	14-07-2020 12:05

Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36043125)

You are being extremely silly. Trust you Hugh to take my remarks on African corruption and dictatorship as being advocacy of colonialism and Imperialism. Everybody else understood my point. You just like going on the attack.

---------- Post added at 17:21 ---------- Previous post was at 17:20 ----------

... and I expected nothing less from you.

---------- Post added at 17:23 ---------- Previous post was at 17:21 ----------

Did you deliberately misunderstand me or need I make it clearer? Is there a foreign country with a long term plan for taking over the UK by a different culture?

Not that I know of - unless you mean the USA, with it’s Coca-Colonisation of the world..

nomadking

14-07-2020 12:24

Re: Black Lives Matter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36043125)

You are being extremely silly. Trust you Hugh to take my remarks on African corruption and dictatorship as being advocacy of colonialism and Imperialism. Everybody else understood my point. You just like going on the attack.

---------- Post added at 17:21 ---------- Previous post was at 17:20 ----------

... and I expected nothing less from you.

---------- Post added at 17:23 ---------- Previous post was at 17:21 ----------

Did you deliberately misunderstand me or need I make it clearer? Is there a foreign country with a long term plan for taking over the UK by a different culture?

Why does it have to a be a specific country or group. There is a thing called "Common Purpose". People and groups acting towards a common aim, without any interaction or coordination between them. Eg Are all the violent acts committed in the name of Islam or ISIS, only carried out at the specific request of a country or group? Or is there so much indoctrination churned out by certain countries and groups, that people act on that indoctrination all by themselves.

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