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papa smurf 13-11-2016 13:40

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35869494)
America has the State Department, we have the Foreign Office. Hopefully these manage the relationship. We're not teenagers getting our friends to see if America likes us.

too proud to ask for the Nigel's help ?

Several Conservative Party MPs have urged the Prime Minister not to be too proud to make use of Mr Farage's relationship with the President Elect.

Pierre 13-11-2016 13:43

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35869486)
The Donald and the Nigel

NIGEL FARAGE has met Donald Trump making him the first British politician to meet the President-elect since his victory.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/731...ks-Theresa-May

Good old Nige, a brilliant opportunist.

papa smurf 13-11-2016 13:44

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35869501)
Good old Nige, a brilliant opportunist.

its the American way :)

RizzyKing 13-11-2016 14:10

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The reporting on trump's position on NATO has like in so many area's involving trump been woeful at best outright fabrication at worst but i actually agree with him that NATO members should pay their fair share. Too many nations have cut their defence spending over relying on the US to take up the slack. I think the way this will be gotten round is the single eu military that brussels wants and has the plans for.

pip08456 13-11-2016 15:26

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Isn't there a fixed percentage of GDP as the "fair share"?

techguyone 13-11-2016 15:33

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yup it's supposed to be 2% minimum, we just about do that, many other members don't.

I can see why the US get mardy over that.

Damien 13-11-2016 15:38

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The US are right to be upset about that. Obama has been as well. However he shouldn't question the principle of an attack on one being an attack on all nor should he consider removing NATO defences from Eastern Europe. We should increase our percentage anyway although we're, rightfully, renewing our deterrent.

RizzyKing 13-11-2016 15:48

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His position is a little more complicated then that Damien he supports NATO fully based on the time we made the deal with the russians that we have since broken handing Putin a legitimate reason to whip up a bit of hatred. That doesn't mean what Putin has done is acceptable but the west cannot deny it's part in events that have happened.

Osem 13-11-2016 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35869498)
Me also, lots of misreporting from bad journalism going on here. Trump is NOT against NATO nor is he pulling back from it, but at the same time, he also expects Nations that expect US protection to contribute their fair share.

The same tactics employed to undermine Brexit. Some serious scaremongering, distortion and exaggeration going on even allowing for some of Trump's rather absurd statements.

Anypermitedroute 13-11-2016 19:02

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35869538)
The same tactics employed to undermine Brexit. Some serious scaremongering, distortion and exaggeration going on even allowing for some of Trump's rather absurd statements.

Same tactics used to exaggerate benefits of brexit and indeed Hilary

papa smurf 13-11-2016 19:29

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US President-elect Donald Trump has said he will deport or jail up to three million illegal migrants initially.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37969112

TheDaddy 13-11-2016 20:21

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35869498)
Me also, lots of misreporting from bad journalism going on here. Trump is NOT against NATO nor is he pulling back from it, but at the same time, he also expects Nations that expect US protection to contribute their fair share.

They have contributed their fair share in blood alone, remind me who is the one nation that has benefitted from article 5 actually being used

Jimmy-J 14-11-2016 08:02

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Mother kicks son out of house because he voted for Donald Trump in school.

Heartbreaking.


RizzyKing 14-11-2016 13:59

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If that video is real i hope she's prosecuted to the full extent of the law as that's just disgusting and she is no parent by any measure i use absolutely pathetic. We have one group tired of the same ol political merry go round that constantly marginalises and walks over large sections of society and then we have the group who have total belief that their way is the only way and when things dont go their way attack the people not the cause of the problem. The latter group cannot see beyond their own arrogance and self righteousness that maybe just maybe their way isn't right and doesn't work, i think more elections are going to go against the old structure with some pretty unpleasant people getting elected before a new and hopefully better way of doing things emerges.

techguyone 14-11-2016 14:19

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It won't be, it's just a pathetic stunt.

If it were real, the kid would be better off away from them anyway.


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