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Ramrod 10-01-2016 18:34
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35816580)
So, many women were raped, accosted or robbed in Cologne, and the police did little or nothing at the time to stop it.

Today some anti-immigration people got water-cannoned and pepper-sprayed when they rallied to protest about it in the same city.
Yep. Bloodymarvelous, isn't it? :rolleyes:
Oh and apparently the surround women with large numbers of arab men and tear their clothes off & molest them is a 'thing' in some countries. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Taharrush
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Following the mass sexual assault in Cologne on New Year’s Eve, German authorities are talking about the phenomenon of ‘Taharrush‘ — where large gangs of men attack and even rape women during major events.

Taharrush has so far been confined to the Arab world, but with the huge migrant influx last year, authorities are now concerned the Cologne attacks could be the first example in Europe.

The Federal Criminal Police (BKA) told Welt am Sonntag that they are looking at how some Arab countries deal with mass sexual assaults amid fears similar attacks could happen again at other large gatherings in the country.

TheDaddy 11-01-2016 06:59
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35816703)
Yeah but think of our GDP as we went under... :rolleyes:

Anyone with a brain ought to know that rapid population growth isn't sustainable and certainly isn't the way to bring an end to such issues as housing/water/food shortages, pressure on services/infrastructure etc. etc. etc.

It doesn't make much sense to wait for the breaking point to be reached before accepting that there must be one...
It makes perfect sense when you don't take a long term view as politicians don't, what do they care what happens in twenty years all they're interested in is here and now and winning the next election

nomadking 11-01-2016 09:05
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GDP may go up simply because everybody has to buy essentials like food. Where the money comes from is another matter. It will come from more benefits paid out from borrowed money. Then add in the effect of money being sent abroad and the economy actually loses out.

Osem 11-01-2016 12:38
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
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The German official responsible for investigating the attacks on women in Cologne on New Year's Eve says the suspects were "almost exclusively" those with a migration background, mainly North African and Arab.

Ralf Jaeger accused Cologne police of making "serious mistakes".

More than 500 criminal complaints have been filed - 40% alleging sexual assault - relating to 31 December.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35280386

Who'd could possibly predicted... :rolleyes:

It says something about the mindset and flawed thinking of our glorious leaders that the threat posed to our security in Europe by such a massive influx of persons unknown didn't warrant any action but suddenly the realisation has dawned on them, as a result of these sexual assaults, that a significant number of these people are extremely dubious and capable of causing a whole lot of trouble. Well I'm sorry but there's been all sorts of criminality going on but nobody wanted to admit it until they had to.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35816783)
GDP may go up simply because everybody has to buy essentials like food. Where the money comes from is another matter. It will come from more benefits paid out from borrowed money. Then add in the effect of money being sent abroad and the economy actually loses out.
The GDP argument has always been flawed IMHO. We're always being told most migrants are here doing all the low paid jobs that we don't want and scrimping by on poverty pay. We're also told that a great many save as much as they can to send home (both within and outside the EU e.g. the Philippines) in order to support their poverty stricken families. I don't see how either scenario an be argued as being positive for GDP.

Per capita income has to be a much better measure of the nation's wealth but even where that increases due (in part) to population growth we still have to consider the sustainability factor and the effects of population growth on things like the environment and our way of life.

Ramrod 11-01-2016 12:41
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An article from the New York Times

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When immigration proceeds at a steady but modest clip, deep change comes slowly, and there’s time for assimilation to do its work. That’s why the Muslim population in Europe has been growing only at one percentage point a decade; it’s why many of the Turkish and North African immigrants who arrived in Germany and France decades ago are reasonably Europeanized today.

But if you add a million (or millions) of people, most of them young men, in one short period, you get a very different kind of shift.

Osem 11-01-2016 12:48
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Yes, it's not exactly rocket science is it? Makes you wonder how our glorious leaders didn't seem to see... :confused: :rolleyes:

Anyway I wish Merkel the best of luck with deporting these people back to north Africa and the Arab world...

Taf 11-01-2016 16:23
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
They'd tie themselves to long bungee cords of course... back in no time at all with new identities and tales of woe back home.

Osem 12-01-2016 07:50
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
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Germany has been sending an increasing number of migrants back to Austria every day since the beginning of the month, Austrian police say.

Many had no valid documents, whilst others did not want to apply for asylum in Germany but in other countries, notably in Scandinavia, police said.

New Year's Eve attacks on women in Cologne, blamed on migrants, have put pressure on Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Most of those sent back to Austria are not Syrians, who usually get asylum.

Instead, they are migrants mostly from Afghanistan as well as Morocco and Algeria, Austrian police said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35286640

So Germany invited them in, they made their way through Europe with no papers and now Germany has told them they're not wanted and passed the problem back to other countries. Where will Austria send them I wonder or is their 'welcome' still unequivocal? I can see this going well...

If Merkel (and all the others complicit in this madness) was the head of a corporation or even a government dept like HMRC, I'm sure she'd have been forced to resign by now.

techguyone 12-01-2016 08:11
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
I'm not sure if the boxheads do the 'falling on your sword' bit, it'll be interesting to see. When's the next elections over there?

heero_yuy 12-01-2016 14:37
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
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A SUICIDE bomber with links to Syria is believed to have caused this morning's explosion at a packed tourist hotspot in Istanbul.

At least ten people were killed in the explosion in the Turkish city's historic Sultanahmet district - where thousands of Brits visit every year.

Deputy PM Numan Kurtulmus said the suicide bomber is a 28-year-old Syrian refugee.

Turkish officials reportedly blamed ISIS for the attack but this has not been verified.

Turkey's Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu has told Angela Merkel most of those who died are German.

At least nine of the wounded were also German nationals.
Linky

Refugee suicide bomber. Who'd have thought it?

Ironic that Germans were targetted after letting so many into their country.

Taf 12-01-2016 15:36
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Perhaps daesh is getting worried that its human shield is being depleted?

Osem 12-01-2016 16:38
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35816991)
Linky

Refugee suicide bomber. Who'd have thought it?

Ironic that Germans were targetted after letting so many into their country.
Not Merkel for sure. Thanks to our porous borders and flawed immigration policy, we've been letting in and giving refuge to persons unknown for years. Of course nobody in officialdom has been too keen to keep records as to what crimes they might subsequently have been involved in because that might be too embarrassing...

Ramrod 12-01-2016 16:48
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
German Cop Breaks Ranks: We Are BANNED From Detaining Migrants
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The officer told the paper the public do not get an accurate idea of what is really happening in the migrant crime wave, because events are mis-reported by police to prevent outrage.
Bernd said in the past months, he had only once had cause to book a German citizen. The rest of his arrests and complaints were against migrants, who he said regularly “sexually harassed” women around the local railway station, the first stop in Germany after the railway crosses from Austria.

heero_yuy 13-01-2016 12:52
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
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Denmark's government said on Tuesday it had secured a parliamentary majority for a controversial plan to seize migrants' valuables to pay for their stay in asylum centres.

"The government, the Social Democrats, the Danish People's Party, the Liberal Alliance and the Conservative People's Party have agreed to amend the bill concerning valuables," a government statement said, indicating that wedding rings and other items of sentimental value would be exempt from the move.

In addition to wedding rings, it listed engagement rings, family portraits and badges of honour as items that could not be confiscated from asylum seekers.
Linky

Not so welcoming then.

Sirius 13-01-2016 13:16
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35816932)
I'm not sure if the boxheads do the 'falling on your sword' bit, it'll be interesting to see. When's the next elections over there?
Not heard them called that in a long time


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