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Rather obvious.

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Agreed :D exclusive :D

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That will cheer a certain someone up once they comes out of the shadows.;)

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It'll be before the end of the year. NBCU own Sky as well, so I'd imagine Sky territories will be the first for Peacock's international expansion.

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Would not surprise me.

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I doubt it , Comcast will have agreements with other platforms for UK rights for its content so will have to wait for those to expire first.

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How would we see that happen? NBC uk channels launching? Our tv landscape literally having American shows airing the same day in the uk as the USA? International rights being axed so to speak? Wouldn’t the content provider lose money that way? It is intriguing

What about liberty global? Do we think they may be tasty to some American company. Currently virgin media seem quite detached from liberty global in Europe

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A little over an hour to go until the eagerly awaited Netflix results. Popcorn time!

My guess is some growth in low profit emerging markets supporting the headline subscriber figure but a softness in the major markets due to increased competition.

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Can you compare what Netflix shows with what Disney shows? Surely Disney is aimed more at the childrens and younger audience, rather than some of the adult-themed dramas that Netflix shows.

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Adults enjoy much of the content that Disney have as well MM.

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Are you basking in the possible bad results for Netflix, if so, why?

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I don't doubt that Den, but they're not really comparable in what they show.

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I suspect it’s the dose of reality it might bring to this discussion he’s interested in, rather than Netflix performing poorly per se.

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Yeah maybe, just seems a bit odd that's all.

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Indeed.

I like, and subscribe to, the Netflix product. The joke that often does the rounds is who pays for Netflix vs who all uses a family member/friends account. I'm the guy that pays in my family!

I don't really think it's helpful if Netflix throws billions into content, on top of billions that they are already in debt, forcing up content costs for the wider market. The bottom line is while institutional investors all run around hoping to make hundreds of millions of dollars in the boom/bust on the share price, at the other end the subscribers are being asked to bankroll an inflated content market. Driving up subscription costs across the whole market.

A shock to the market so that it's accepted there isn't an ever increasing subscriber base and ever increasing revenues has to happen at some point. They're all competing for the same pot of money, whatever size that is over however many subscribers. Arguably the sooner it happens the better.

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I'd be surprised if there wasn't "softness" in America, but the main thing is whether they have more customers overall or not. As long as that figure keeps going up, Netflix will remain in growth state.

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If you come to the conclusion that the end user pays more when all these huge multinationals start throwing billions around it's not really an odd position at all.

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Maybe so, but why the popcorn remark?

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A simple figure of speech.

I'm simply one of the sad people who actually has more of an interest in observing the media market than I am interested the products these companies sell.

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167m customers for Netflix. Well on the way to 200m now.

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Forecast - the figures aren't out yet (are they?)

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Published at the closing bell. Only 600 000 adds in the USA. 7 million in the rest of the world.

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And those US figures are with Disney and Apple launching, yet Netflix still added customers in America.

I'd expect another 20m customers this year, another 20m next, then see what impact Disney and the other steamers have once they've fully launched globally.

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I don’t think the situation is so straightforward as to say competition arrives will result in an immediate fall.

Clearly, it’s hitting growth in the USA, and while subscriber numbers are up the ARPU is much lower (and falling) in dollar terms in Asia Pacific and Latin America regions. With high debt, and increased spend, it’s a bad time to be relying on low value additions over high value North American growth.

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America has had all this cord cutting driving growth, Europe will likely catch up with US numbers, but other regions will take longer, I agree and Disney et all will face the same issues.

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Seriously ... stop putting “copyright” on your posts. It means nothing and makes you look daft.

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Disney+ launching in the UK at £5.99 is an absolute steal of a price. No different tiers just one price to get all content at the best resolution offered.

Netflix price for the same 4k content is about £11.99.

They need to get their pricing down.

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There’s no way Disney will keep its price down at that level in the long run, and Netflix knows this. They don’t need to get their prices down, unless hard evidence (such as massive loss of sub numbers) demands it.

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Daft?

I just put "Copyright" on some posts when using information from Sources to stop my posts being use on other web sites without using my name.

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You think?

Meanwhile

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“Copyright” protects your wording, to the extent that it is an original creative work. It doesn’t protect the information you have just shared on a public website. Anyone can repeat the information you’ve posted here wherever they like and you have no remedy in law to stop them.

You obviously don’t have a clue what copyright is, or about copyright law, so yes, sticking copyright notices on your posts in bold type makes you look daft. As does pretending you’re a “we”, but that’s another issue entirely.

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It's not the same content though is it. As someone pointed out above, Disney goes for a certain stream of the audience, albeit a large one.

Different services with different content will be worth different amounts to different people.

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lmfao...:D

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So true, I have pretty sure I have made this comment in the past and been shot down in flames!

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With Netflix shares slipping 3.3% so far today I don't think the market is too enthusiastic about the results vs expectations.

Shelling out billions more in content to make marginal gains in North America but more significant gains in Latin America/Asia Pacific is a classic example of the law of diminishing returns.

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Chris whether you think this or not i'm not sure why it annoys you so much? Media boy is an excellent poster and if he wants to say "copyright" due to a belief it'll stop his post being put elsewhere does that really impact the rest of us?

Also as a member of the cable forum team is it really appropriate to send this message ans call someone "daft"?

Now to get my post back on track. What are the odds of the next big streaming service coming to virgin media? Disney? Now tv? WWE network? Or any other?

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Really? Have you never read any of Mick or Paul’s posts on here? :dozey:

Believe me if I’d wanted to put the boot in, “daft” is not the word I’d have used. And yes, occasional comments about the accuracy of people’s posts is fair game, whether made by team or otherwise, as long as it doesn’t derail the thread. Claims of copyright over anything posted on a public web forum are dubious in the extreme. It does no harm to say so, and may help prevent users embarrassing themselves elsewhere.

On which note. ;)

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You are posting news or information that is freely available online. You adding that word means nothing, so yes it is daft. The same way you use the term us, when in fact it is just you, a singular person.

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Britbox yes, Disney+ yes, WWE network no idea but doubtful, nowtv no chance. Peacock no as it's not launching in uk.

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For once I agree, what you say makes sense .Didnt think I would ever say that in a post:erm:

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I’m confused about britbox. I thought it was just for people outside the Uk to watch bbc and itv shows? I would have thought all these bbc shows and itv shows are on Netflix, prime, iPlayer and itv play ?

Or are we literally paying the same price as other subscribers even though we paid our license fee for the bbc stuff already...

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Britbox is supposed to become the ultimate box set library of UK-produced tv entertainment. Stuff that is currently on other services, like Netflix, is likely to disappear from there and go Britbox-exclusive in the long run. The app was available at launch on various devices in the UK including (I think) any Samsung smart tv from series 7 onwards (so less than about 3 years old). It’s available for mine but I’m not going to add it unless I decide to give it a try (which I might, when I foresee a long spell of bingeing ... I quite fancy going through all that classic Doctor Who).

But anyway, aside from the fact that a lot of the material on Britbox wasn’t ever shown on the BBC (ITV is the co-owner), it is a common misconception that the TV licence grants UK TV viewers rights in perpetuity to BBC content. This has never been the case. The BBC doesn’t even own a lot of supposedly BBC shows, and won’t be the sole beneficiary of slices of the subscription pie for much of the stuff they originally broadcast. Often the BBC receives pitches from third parties for their drama ideas, and in return for commissioning them, the BBC gets a say in the creative development of the show and first run rights. After that the production company usually gets to sell overseas and on blu ray.

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Britbox is in uk now in a joint venture between itv, bbc and Channel 5. Channel 4 stuff is rumoured to be arriving soon.
As Chris said there is a lot of content on there that was never aired.

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In my opinion yes, read a post the other day which pointed out that you can watch sky sports on a tablet abroad but cannot watch BBC - who's stupid idea is that?

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I assume if you subscribe to Britbox you'll be able to watch that in Europe while on holiday.

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The legal rights holders, probably...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/q...-uk/outside-uk

https://www.sky.com/help/articles/st...tent-in-the-eu

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I wouldn't bank on it.

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From the BritBox Help & Support page.

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The ruling was in relation to subscription services, hence Sky, Amazon, Netflix, etc. As a result there is nothing to force the FTA providers, such as the BBC.
Of course the current ruling is only mandatory until the end of the year when the UK is due to leave EU rulings behind.

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Sky on the brink of sealing exclusive deal to bring Disney+ to millions of British homes (pay link)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...lions-british/

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Sky are not going anywhere that is for sure.

So much for those forward thinking predictions.;)

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Sky’s strategy has always been to subsume the brands of the channels it carries beneath its own so people always think they’re watching something “on Sky” even when they’re not. Bidding to fully integrate Disney+ content into their menu structure is consistent with that.

However in this case I’d question the value of what they’re doing. Streaming is big news right now, and the brand names have cachet. People talk about Netflix and Amazon Prime. They’re already talking about Disney+. As long as those brand names can still appear on rival services - or, indeed, as standalone apps on various smart TVs - is there really sufficient value in what Sky is doing? Have they thought this through or are they acting out of habit, and hoping to pretend they have some sort of content exclusive, like they used to in their heyday?

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Interesting thoughts. I feel Sky has most to lose with Disney+ as its customers have grown up on Fox Content like The Simpsons and Sky Movies Disney. Keeping rhis content prominent for a few years whilst it moves over to promoting more in-house and Universal content seems a logical step.

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Disney+ is due to release its first quarterly earnings statement and subscription figures:

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dis...gs-1203487377/

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Thanks, i had a good search for where we have discussed it in the past but couldnt find anything.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51379064

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Be interesting to know how many of those are from the Verizon free disney+ for 12 months offer.
I'd like to see he figures in 12 months once all the free offers have expired then we'll get true numbers i feel.
I suspect Disney+ will exceed 50million worldwide within 12 months though.

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Also, whether Disney can sustain the service with new material.

Still an astonishing figure.

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There is plenty of new material in the pipeline so l don't think that will be a problem IMO.

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I think they'll be over 100m by the end of the year when they add Europe and Asia to it.

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As I posted on another thread.

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Hulu targeting 2021 for international rollout, says Disney CEO

Link

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https://www.theguardian.com/football...-sports-rights

Premier League talking up setting up their own streaming service overseas.

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Good article, although I note they are bullish about this in certain countries but not particularly in UK.

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I suspect they’re just talking it up to push up the value of the rights.

The example they use of £35 a month in Singapore just because a combined sports offering charges that is fairly speculative - attributing no value to the other content.

Makes you think they don’t see Amazon or anyone buying worldwide rights in the near future though. As for the UK well everyone knows my stance on the challenges of any new entrants - and that would include the league themselves.

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Very unlikely to happen in this country.

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They'd need everyone in the country to subscribe to the EPL at 20 quid a month and they'd still not make as much money as they are getting now.

Sky and BT overpay massively. They won't want to rock the boat in the UK

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Six months free BritBox for EE customers

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-ee-customers/

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Crazy money.

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They are getting more desperate by the day as one of the great problems for Britbox and there are quite a few is the lack of limited smart TV and streaming device support for it.


They do have classic Doctor Who episodes on there though.;)

Here is a full review of Britbox.

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/ente...britbox-review

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Hardly call it desperate, the likes of Amazon and Netflix are already holding deals with various providers.

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Any news of a BritBox app coming to the V6 box

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None...

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They can't even get a app on the big players such as roku, firetv so i wouldn't hold your breath.

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Starzplay now lets you subscribe vthrough its app on google play free for 7 days then 99p a month for 3 months, £4.99p/m afterwards.

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Britbox has launched on fire tv.

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It doesn't work on some of the older boxes - but does on the majority.

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Disney+ can be pre‑ordered from this morning with a discount for those who want a 12 month prescription and the offer is valid until the 23rd of March .

https://preview.disneyplus.com/uk?ci...--First_Visual

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That is fantastic value for the quality of the content. It makes the BBC look like a con.

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The BBC is a con!

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Four times the price for a service i dont use

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Here we go another license fee thread incoming.:erm:

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That depends on ones point of view...

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you can't help but compare and contrast when something so superb comes along like Disney+

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You can guarantee it...

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Disney+ as good as it is does not give one the breath of content that the BBC does and never will do in a month of Sunday's.

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What's so superb ?

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True, because it has a specific focus. That doesn't excuse the BBC, who provide a biased news focus, negative and sensationalist documentaries and too many schedule-fillers like 'Homes Under the Hammer' which could just as easily appear on commercial channels.

Not only that, we have to pay through the nose for all of this whether we want to use it or not.

Fortunately, the government have reacted to the public anger and the election coverage and will now look at ways to rid us of the licence fee so we only pay if we use it. Good. That will at least make them more accountable to their viewers.

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Biased???

So Labour think the BBC is biased on behalf of the Tories, and the Tories think the BBC is biased on behalf of Labour - not sure how both of these statements can be true?

I think, in some peoples' world, "biased" means not totally supporting what they support, and daring to question actions by those whom they support...

fyi, that's not bias.

There is no "public anger", just sound and fury by some people amplified by those who would benefit from the BBC being abolished - Boris Johnson disagrees with Dominic Cummings over plans to scrap the BBC licence fee and wants reform rather than revolution'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cence-fee.html

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Of course there is bias. Just look at how they dealt with coverage on Brexit, how Fiona Bruce on Question Time looks down her nose at Conservative supporters. Of course they are biased.

As for Labour, they won't tolerate any criticism at all of their darling Leader, so saying that criticism from both sides is proof there is no bias is hyperbole.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...topher-Snowdon

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A link from a Tory Newspaper :D

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Let’s get back on topic, please.

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Haha old boy that was a funny link. I think the bbc Laura kussenberg announcing postal votes info before Election Day was pretty out of line and possibly criminal. A woman hilariously blamed the Eu for not dredging British rivers yet it’s been the British waterways responsibility for several decades. This was asked on question time by a well known tommy supporter and wasn’t challenged by Fiona Bruce but accepted....

I hate politics chats on a forum not about politics and I respect you a lot old boy so as the moderator says let’s move on. Nothing is ever black and white!

Apparently wwe pay per views are moving off their own network and onto ESPN+. I think we’ll be drowning in different streaming services in the next few years. But again like with Netflix etc we’ll probably be getting a much lesser content than our American friends !

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And paying £1 for each $1 they pay over the pond

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hadnt even thought that!

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Ok guys need some help here, I have Amazon Prime, I went to the app via the virgin remote, I cannot seem to get prime to work, I get a message saying sign in to prime on your virgin set-top box, on the left-hand side of the screen there's a pic of a TV with a code, it says enter this code to access prime, but no matter what i try there seems no way to enter the code, any ideas?

Update.........I didn't realise that I had to register my TV on the Amazon website, via my pc, a bit of a carry on tbh...

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Isn't there usually a web address with this sort of thing? If you visit it on another device while logged into Amazon it will give you a place to enter it. Once entered your account will sync with the V6 app.

This is just a guess, I've no experience with this particular app.

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If you have amazon prime on a phone or tablet it will send the code there, then copy it onto the TV app

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Thx guys, figured it out....