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OLD BOY 14-07-2017 12:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35907764)
I wouldn't at all be surprised if the US PGA had plans already in place to live stream on someone like Twitter and this put pressures on the negotiations with Sky.
I think this is a crazy idea. By putting it on Twitter, they will lose a large proportion of their potential older audience.

muppetman11 14-07-2017 12:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35907794)
I think this is a crazy idea. By putting it on Twitter, they will lose a large proportion of their potential older audience.
We don't know what's happening with it , Twitter was just an example. It could quite as easy be a social media network and a terrestrial channel we just don't know.

OLD BOY 14-07-2017 12:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35907796)
We don't know what's happening with it , Twitter was just an example. It could quite as easy be a social media network and a terrestrial channel we just don't know.
I know, but if they put this exclusively on Twitter, Facebook and the like, they will lose audience share. Many older people see these social media sites as self indulgent, trivialising and a threat to their privacy.

I am sure there will be a slide towards this sort of idea in the future, but those sites have to do a lot more to win over those who choose not to belong to the digital social community to maximise the opportunities.

denphone 14-07-2017 12:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35907801)
I know, but if they put this exclusively on Twitter, Facebook and the like, they will lose audience share. Many older people see these social media sites as self indulgent, trivialising and a threat to their privacy.

I am sure there will be a slide towards this sort of idea in the future, but those sites have to do a lot more to win over those who choose not to belong to the digital social community to maximise the opportunities.
And there are just as many older people who like them as well.:p:

OLD BOY 14-07-2017 13:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35907803)
And there are just as many older people who like them as well.:p:
Maybe not 'just as many', but certainly I would not put the whole of that generation into the same bracket! But if golf was put exclusively on Twitter, the organisers would suffer a much reduced income compared with if they chose a more acceptable means of carriage.

Gavin-D 14-07-2017 15:51
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BT Sport regain The Caribbean Premier League cricket rights from UKTVs Dave

muppetman11 14-07-2017 16:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35907730)
US PGA Championship set for UK TV blackout after Sky loses live rights

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...poulter-fowler
Bit more info here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/golf/2017...no-deal-place/

Richc1977 14-07-2017 18:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35907838)
The final 2 rounds are still on BBC along with highlights of first two.

My take on this is that the PGA told SKY you can have the broadcast rights but the PGA will also be showing it for free on Social Media. PGA seem to want it across all platforms including TV and social media.

I guess with those terms SKY probably thought it was not worth it as it won't drive subs. You never know first two rounds might end up on BBC now.

muppetman11 14-07-2017 18:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35907850)
The final 2 rounds are still on BBC along with highlights of first two.

My take on this is that the PGA told SKY you can have the broadcast rights but the PGA will also be showing it for free on Social Media. PGA seem to want it across all platforms including TV and social media.

I guess with those terms SKY probably thought it was not worth it as it won't drive subs. You never know first two rounds might end up on BBC now.
I agree Rich that was my thinking also , I suppose if it it all ends up on the BBC it's a win win for Golf fans. It also poses the question will other overseas Sports consider doing the same.

Chad 16-07-2017 20:47
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Twitter moves to land rights to US PGA Championship

https://www.ft.com/content/05e69a2c-...b7eaa?mhq5j=e2

Gavin-D 16-07-2017 21:25
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Mayweather vs McGregor will cost Americans $89.95 to watch in SD and $99.95 in HD the UK price will be announced as soon as the broadcaster is sorted it will either be Sky or ITV

muppetman11 16-07-2017 22:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35908108)
Twitter moves to land rights to US PGA Championship

https://www.ft.com/content/05e69a2c-...b7eaa?mhq5j=e2
I found these parts particularly interesting
Quote:
Other people familiar with the process said a British “free-to-air” broadcaster was also in talks for television rights to next month’s tournament at Quail Hollow Club in North Carolina.
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Together, the TV and digital deals for the US PGA tournament are expected to recoup up to $10m, similar to what Sky had paid for past tournaments.
Certainly makes sense if true , appeals to the younger generation and available free on TV a win win really and recouping the same money.

Gavin-D 17-07-2017 17:19
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BT TV customers unhappy with new Sky Sports pricing

"BT has confirmed that customers will have to pay £27.50 per month for the Standard Definition version of Sky Sports Main Event and £33.50 for the High Definition version.

In comparison, the same £27.50pm would get customers all 10 of the new channels on Sky’s own platform."

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-tv-custom...ports-pricing/

denphone 19-07-2017 10:48
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BBC wins PGA Championship rights.

http://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/...ionship-rights

muppetman11 19-07-2017 11:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35908406)
Whilst it's great news it's back FTA I'm afraid behind the red button is a massive fail.:td:

denphone 19-07-2017 11:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35908415)
Whilst it's great news it's back FTA I'm afraid behind the red button is a massive fail.:td:
Yep that is typical of the BBC's treatment of some sports MM.

Richc1977 19-07-2017 11:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35908415)
Whilst it's great news it's back FTA I'm afraid behind the red button is a massive fail.:td:
Better behind the red button than behind a pay wall.

With any luck they will decide to bring back the HD red button for this, like they had for Wimbledon.

muppetman11 19-07-2017 12:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35908419)
Better behind the red button than behind a pay wall.

With any luck they will decide to bring back the HD red button for this, like they had for Wimbledon.
Agreed if it is HD however I'd disagree if it's only available in SD behind the red button. The SD red button streams are always poor quality.

spiderplant 19-07-2017 12:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35908417)
Yep that is typical of the BBC's treatment of some sports MM.
What would you prefer they did?

Chad 19-07-2017 12:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35908415)
Whilst it's great news it's back FTA I'm afraid behind the red button is a massive fail.:td:
The BBC where already committed to showing the World Athletics Championships on BBC One and BBC Two during the period the PGA Championship takes place.

Is it a fail by the PGA for selling their rights to the BBC knowing it could only go on red button? I can't see that the BBC have done anything wrong. They're broadcasting the golf on the platform they have available on those dates.

muppetman11 19-07-2017 12:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35908436)
The BBC where already committed to showing the World Athletics Championships on BBC One and BBC Two during the period the PGA Championship takes place.

Is it a fail by the PGA for selling their rights to the BBC knowing it could only go on red button? I can't see that the BBC have done anything wrong. They're broadcasting the golf on the platform they have available on those dates.
Sorry if I didn't make it clear however I agree my gripe was with the PGA and not the BBC.

OLD BOY 19-07-2017 12:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35908439)
Sorry if I didn't make it clear however I agree my gripe was with the PGA and not the BBC.
Perhaps the BBC could put on a pop up channel called BBC PGA na na na na na Sky!:D

Media Boy UK 19-07-2017 12:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35908415)
Whilst it's great news it's back FTA I'm afraid behind the red button is a massive fail.:td:
BBC Red Button is on Virgin Channel 991 and Freeview Channel 601.

muppetman11 19-07-2017 12:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35908441)
BBC Red Button is on Virgin Channel 991 and Freeview Channel 601.
And your point is ?

It's still 9 times out of 10 in fuzzy vision SD.

OLD BOY 19-07-2017 12:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35908441)
BBC Red Button is on Virgin Channel 991 and Freeview Channel 601.
Nothing wrong with that in my book, as long as it's in HD. They should also consider putting it on as a live feed on the i-player.

denphone 19-07-2017 12:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35908435)
What would you prefer they did?
Personally they should have a separate channel for all their sports content all in HD of course.

Media Boy UK 19-07-2017 12:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35908444)
Nothing wrong with that in my book, as long as it's in HD. They should also consider putting it on as a live feed on the i-player.
I don't know what will happen maybe the BBC will offer an HD feed on BBC Iplayer.;)

Anyway the SD Channel look the same on Virgin Media as an HD Channel - in my own view (Even with an HD Telly.)

spiderplant 19-07-2017 13:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35908446)
Personally they should have a separate channel for all their sports content all in HD of course.
But there's a clash with athletics. Red button seems the least worst option to me.

denphone 19-07-2017 13:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35908452)
But there's a clash with athletics. Red button seems the least worst option to me.
Well each to their own opinion but l find the red button inconsistent and generally lacking in good PQ generally.

telegramsam 19-07-2017 18:44
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Why can't they put it on BBC4? And broadcast 24hours or as long as they need to whilst the golf is on?

muppetman11 19-07-2017 19:50
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Amazon to challenge Sky for live tennis rights?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...rs-rights.html

Chad 19-07-2017 20:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35908509)
Amazon to challenge Sky for live tennis rights?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...rs-rights.html
The ATP have a streaming app on Amazon which is not part of the current Amazon Channel offering. Have a feeling there is truth in the story but not as the Mail have interpreted.

Think it's more likely Amazon are pushing to have the ATP streaming app added to their Amazon Channel line up. The app suddenly becomes more attractive if all ATP tournaments outwith the slams are exclusive to the app. It's possible Amazon are prepared to grease the wheels to make this reality.

muppetman11 19-07-2017 21:24
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Could be right although clearly Amazon want in on Sports Rights.
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news...eo-1201923915/
Since this article they've captured the NFL Networks Thursday Night games from Twitter.

OLD BOY 19-07-2017 22:30
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Can't wait to see the bidding process for the next Premiership football rights!

Dave42 19-07-2017 22:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35908535)
Can't wait to see the bidding process for the next Premiership football rights!
why so they bid higher and we pay more

Raider999 19-07-2017 22:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35908541)
why so they bid higher and we pay more

Or even worse a 3rd, 4th etc bidder gets involved - spreading the rights across at least 1 other supplier.

End result subscribers have to pay for another subscription to watch all of the broadcast games.

Competition does not work in the subscribers interest - it merely drives up the price.

Chad 19-07-2017 23:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35908542)
Or even worse a 3rd, 4th etc bidder gets involved - spreading the rights across at least 1 other supplier.

End result subscribers have to pay for another subscription to watch all of the broadcast games.

Competition does not work in the subscribers interest - it merely drives up the price.
True however next time the rights are sold the amount of games will go up from the the current 168 to at least 190 as a result of a deal the Premiership struck with Ofcom. There is a suggestion that the total amount of games on offer will actually be over 200.

There is room for a 3rd party other than SKY and BT to come in, win a package or 2, and not decrease the amount of games current being shown on SKY and BT.

In that scenario, if you are a SKY or BT subscribers, you're not actually losing out at all in terms of numbers of games. You will however have the option to watch even more games than before if you're prepared to pay extra to the new 3rd party.

Superblade7 19-07-2017 23:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35908542)
Competition does not work in the subscribers interest - it merely drives up the price.
Competition does work for the consumer if it's genuine competition.

E.g. if I want a mobile phone service, I have the choice of multiple operators all of whom provide a mobile phone service of voice, text and data. Yes, they differ in quality, price, extras, etc, but that is a genuine choice dependant upon what overall package you require from your mobile phone service.

The Premier League rights are sold in exclusive packs so there is no competition. If you want 100+ games your only choice is currently Sky Sports, if you want just 20+ different games your only choice is currently BT Sport and if you want them all you have to have both.

Now if all broadcasters could buy the same packs of Premier League matches, e.g.Sky, BT, Netflix, Amazon, etc, all had the same 120+ matches, that would be true competition as the consumer would be able to watch all the matches on the broadcaster that offered them the best all round package for their needs.

It's unlikely that this true competition will happen in the short-term as losing broadcaster exclusivity would also reduce the price they were willing to pay to line the pockets of the Premier League.

denphone 20-07-2017 05:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35908535)
Can't wait to see the bidding process for the next Premiership football rights!
Why? as the same companies are likely to be involved despite your pie in the sky hopes that it will be big changes ahead..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35908541)
why so they bid higher and we pay more
You have got it in one Dave.

OLD BOY 20-07-2017 08:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35908549)
Why? as the same companies are likely to be involved despite your pie in the sky hopes that it will be big changes ahead..

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You have got it in one Dave.
As Chad said, the dynamics are changing. Not only are more matches up for grabs, but other players with bigger pockets are circling around sports rights. Higher prices are not inevitable - there are other options available, such as lower prices to bring in bigger audiences, charging other platforms the right to show specific matches at an affordable price, offering lower price subscriptions to bolster other purchases (Amazon is a good example of how this could work), etc.

Yes, if you look at the emerging scenario with tunnel vision, all you will see is increasing prices, because that is what we are used to with Sky. But there are other approaches, as I am sure will be revealed.

Don't underestimate these new global players, who will eventually pose a very serious challenge to Sky on sports and film rights. I am certain that Sky is already working on a revised model for their TV business.

pengedragon 24-07-2017 12:43
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anyone had any good offers from vm re sky sports recently ?

my discount ends today so about to give them a call and switch it off before considering my options

also noticed the only channels the rest of the family watch are in the mix package, so (apart from my bt sport watching) full house could also go if it saves a few quid

Mad Max 24-07-2017 18:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35909006)
anyone had any good offers from vm re sky sports recently ?

my discount ends today so about to give them a call and switch it off before considering my options

also noticed the only channels the rest of the family watch are in the mix package, so (apart from my bt sport watching) full house could also go if it saves a few quid
My contract is up in early October mate, I had Sky Sports free for three months and had a previous discount on the sports also, when I enquired yesterday about a better deal I was told that my sports would go up by approx £31 in August, I also asked about the BB as I feel I don't really need the 200Mb speed, I was told that on the 5th August they are bringing back the 50Mb BB offer and you no longer need a telephone landline!
So i'm going to give them 60 days notice on the 5th August as there's no way my bill is going up by £31, if I have to dump the lot I will, he also offered me a free V6 box, so I'm going to tough it out and see what happens.

pengedragon 24-07-2017 18:22
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cheers

mine was going up by a similar amount from today so i've just got rid, also dropped from full house to mix tv so no bt sports for now

also tried to drop bb from 200 to 100, he said he could give me 150 for the same price as 100 for some reason

yesterday my monthly bill was around 68, this morning it went up to about 100, its now down to 44

i dont think I like sport on tv that much anymore :D

see how i feel in a couple of weeks when the football gets going again

Mad Max 24-07-2017 18:29
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Quote:
see how i feel in a couple of weeks when the football gets going again
This is a problem for me mate, I like my football, but sometimes you just need to say "enough is enough" paying £100 plus for the services on offer from Virgin and Sky is a total rip off imo, especially what they are charging for the sports, we, the gullible public, are paying through the nose for overpaid run of the mill football players, it's just not on for me now.

pengedragon 24-07-2017 20:01
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I think more and more people are agreeing with you

muppetman11 24-07-2017 21:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35909039)
This is a problem for me mate, I like my football, but sometimes you just need to say "enough is enough" paying £100 plus for the services on offer from Virgin and Sky is a total rip off imo, especially what they are charging for the sports, we, the gullible public, are paying through the nose for overpaid run of the mill football players, it's just not on for me now.
Simple answer mate probably not one you want to hear but don't pay it , if enough refuse to pay it they'll be forced to do something.

Changing subject I've noticed Sky Sports Mix seems to be showing quite a bit of golf , wonder what Sky's sudden interest in promoting golf is ?

Chad 25-07-2017 23:45
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BT Sport in talks to secure the rights for The Masters from SKY

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/golf/2017...e-masters-sky/

"Sky has been the UK’s host channel for the Masters since 2011, in a shared agreement which allows the BBC to show the final two rounds live. The contract is believed to already be up and talks between Sky and Augusta are apparently in an impasse because of finances. BT sees this as the ideal avenue to enter golf, but there are nervous faces not only at Sky but also the European Tour."

denphone 26-07-2017 11:57
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The ultimate guide to getting sports TV for less.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...re-best-value-

OLD BOY 26-07-2017 13:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35909234)
The ultimate guide to getting sports TV for less.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...re-best-value-
Given the name of the web site, ii's strange that they don't mention the Sky Sports/BT Sport package available on VM.

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FreeSports? This seems to have come out of nowhere. I wonder if it will arrive on Virgin Media?

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/07/n...to-launch.html

Richc1977 26-07-2017 14:08
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ITV4 tomorrow night

Everton v Ruzomberok

UEFA Europa League Third Qualifying Round 1st Leg

Gavin-D 27-07-2017 08:15
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Sky announce a 6% fall in operating profit to £1.47bn for the year to 30 June

http://news.sky.com/story/sky-unveil...-slip-10963494

denphone 27-07-2017 08:34
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Still huge profits though...

muppetman11 27-07-2017 09:30
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And to think some said the fact that Sky paying more for it's Sports rights and more people cancelling or asking for discounts wasn't impacting them.

Gavin-D 27-07-2017 15:31
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Sky unveil Sky Devialet sound bar

Quote:
The device will go on sale this autumn priced at £799 but Sky customers will be able to buy them for £299, and new and existing Sky Q Multiscreen customers will get a special price of £249.
http://www.seenit.co.uk/sky-announce...tmos-to-sky-q/

denphone 27-07-2017 16:30
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BBC to broadcast live coverage of US PGA Championship.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/40738368

muppetman11 27-07-2017 18:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35909478)
If I'm honest I'd never heard of them , after a little research it appears they have some very pricey products.:shocked:

telegramsam 27-07-2017 19:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35909507)
If I'm honest I'd never heard of them , after a little research it appears they have some very pricey products.:shocked:
Like you I've never heard of them and sounds pricey as you day

Joedm45 27-07-2017 20:58
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Never heard of Devialet either, specs look good but that full price is horrific

Looks like even the mighty Sky can make a PR blunder, announce Dolby Atmos is coming and then release a soundbar that doesn't support it... Oh dear

muppetman11 27-07-2017 21:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35909529)
Never heard of Devialet either, specs look good but that full price is horrific

Looks like even the mighty Sky can make a PR blunder, announce Dolby Atmos is coming and then release a soundbar that doesn't support it... Oh dear
To be fair how much would they have charged for an Atmos sound system ? The current one at £249 is more affordable to Sky's user base , maybe if they sell well they'll look at partnering again on an Atmos sound system in the future.

Gavin-D 28-07-2017 12:27
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BT gained 8,000 TV customers in the 3 months to June 30th down from 59,000 in the same period last year

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-brings-ee...umer-division/

Richc1977 30-07-2017 09:14
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UEFA Europa League Third Qualifying Round 2nd Leg

Ruzomberok v Everton

ITV4 Thursday 3rd August

Gavin-D 30-07-2017 09:52
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BT has offered to provide the infrastructure for 99% of premises in the UK to get broadband speeds of at least 10 megabits per second by 2020

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40751449

OLD BOY 30-07-2017 10:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35909870)
BT has offered to provide the infrastructure for 99% of premises in the UK to get broadband speeds of at least 10 megabits per second by 2020

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40751449
That's not very good, though, is it? You need at least 25Mb just to stream video in 4K.

Gavin-D 30-07-2017 11:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35909874)
That's not very good, though, is it? You need at least 25Mb just to stream video in 4K.
Yep and BT Sport UHD requires a minimum of 44Mpbs which is no good for my area as we only have 27Mb Minimum speed guarantee with the range going from 31 to 40

OLD BOY 30-07-2017 18:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35909881)
Yep and BT Sport UHD requires a minimum of 44Mpbs which is no good for my area as we only have 27Mb Minimum speed guarantee with the range going from 31 to 40
BT and the government need to step up and plan for existing and future needs.

Gavin-D 31-07-2017 17:02
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Sky Sports Box Office to show Floyd Mayweather v Conor McGregor on August 26th

Richc1977 01-08-2017 14:08
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Amazon wins ATP Tour Tennis rights

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ment-103017267

denphone 01-08-2017 14:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910235)
No doubt the Amazon Prime customer will be facing a price rise soon enough.

Richc1977 01-08-2017 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910236)
No doubt the Amazon Prime customer will be facing a price rise soon enough.
and no doubt Sky customers won't get a price reduction either.

denphone 01-08-2017 14:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910237)
and no doubt Sky customers won't get a price reduction either.
You can be rest assured of that.

muppetman11 01-08-2017 14:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910237)
and no doubt Sky customers won't get a price reduction either.
In my opinion this is why Sky went with channels for particular Sports , I predicted some of those Sports rights without their own channel would slowly be lost.

Richc1977 01-08-2017 17:21
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
It seems the more rights Sky loose the more channels they add, I'm predicting another change to channels if they fail to retain EFL

Sky Sports Spanish Football
Sky Sports Second Rate Football
Sky Sports Jim White goes on and on about deadline day

;)

muppetman11 01-08-2017 17:43
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910257)
It seems the more rights Sky loose the more channels they add, I'm predicting another change to channels if they fail to retain EFL

Sky Sports Spanish Football
Sky Sports Second Rate Football
Sky Sports Jim White goes on and on about deadline day

;)
Realistically though will they lose them ? If they do alarm bells will start ringing at Sky HQ.

I currently don't have a subscription to Sky Sports however I must admit I didn't realise how weak BT Sports schedule was during the football offseason I've hardly turned it on.

Richc1977 01-08-2017 17:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35910261)
Realistically though will they lose them ? If they do alarm bells will start ringing at Sky HQ.

I currently don't have a subscription to Sky Sports however I must admit I didn't realise how weak BT Sports schedule was during the football offseason I've hardly turned it on.
This was me taking a humourious take on the whole thing. In truth I think Sky will retain the rights but end up paying significantly more for them, the only way BT have a chance of ever beating Sky at the key rights is to blow them out of the water to avoid a second round as they did for CL.

I do suspect however the L1 L2 rights (aside from a few keys games and play offs) will end up on a streaming service.

As to BT yes off season is really poor, although I do follow MLB. Their alleged bid of £175m for ECB shows they realise this.

muppetman11 01-08-2017 18:01
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910262)
This was me taking a humourious take on the whole thing.In truth I think Sky will retain the rights but end up paying significantly more for them, the only way BT have a chance of ever beating Sky at the key rights is to blow them out of the water to,avoid a second round.

I do suspect however the L1 L2 rights (aside from a few keys games and play offs) will end up on a streaming service.

As to BT yes off season is really poor, although I do follow MLB. Their alleged bid of £175m for ECB shows they realise this.
I'm in full agreement with you though , Sky's rebrand has been done to give the impression of more when as you say they are actually losing rights.

Raider999 01-08-2017 21:49
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Yes - unfortunately sky have lost various rights over the past few years

Australian NRL
Australian Cricket
Caribbean 20/20 Cricket
Aviva Premiership RU
European Cup Football
Europa Cup Football

To name but a few (all to BT except NRL) - has the subscription ever gone down to reflect the loss of content, of course not. In fact it always goes up.

I'm sure this is the same if you get it thru Virgin or direct from Sky.

denphone 02-08-2017 06:47
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35910261)
Realistically though will they lose them ? If they do alarm bells will start ringing at Sky HQ.

I currently don't have a subscription to Sky Sports however I must admit I didn't realise how weak BT Sports schedule was during the football offseason I've hardly turned it on.
If BT Sports was not part of Virgins large package they were not be getting many people watching it that is for sure.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35910263)
I'm in full agreement with you though , Sky's rebrand has been done to give the impression of more when as you say they are actually losing rights.
And they will charge you more stealth fully without realising it.

Richc1977 02-08-2017 11:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35910283)
Yes - unfortunately sky have lost various rights over the past few years

Australian NRL
Australian Cricket
Caribbean 20/20 Cricket
Aviva Premiership RU
European Cup Football
Europa Cup Football

To name but a few (all to BT except NRL) - has the subscription ever gone down to reflect the loss of content, of course not. In fact it always goes up.

I'm sure this is the same if you get it thru Virgin or direct from Sky.

Not quite true

Europa Cup - Was on ITV and CH5 not Sky. Also before BT, ESPN had the secondary rights, I can't remember SKY ever having any rights to Europa League.

Caribbean 20/20 - I don't think this has ever been on SKY, this year it's on BT, last year on Dave, before that BT before that I think Eurosport and ESPN.

What have SKY taken from BT/ FTA since BT have come along

Most of F1 from BBC and soon all of it and highlights from CH4
MLS Soccer from BT
Top 14 French Rugby from BT
IPL Cricket from ITV
The Open Golf from BBC
NFL Sunday night football from Ch4 and Monday night from BBC, Eurosport, ESPN (it moved around most years)
England football Friendlies (aka The new Nations League) from ITV


Plus they have increased the amount content from existing football rights, they show more PL games now, pre-BT 115, today 126 plus much more EFL. They also show a lot more La Liga too.

Chad 02-08-2017 22:25
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sony Max UK to broadcast boxing for the first time this Saturday.

https://www.bizasialive.com/sony-max...o-title-fight/

Vijender Singh was promoted by Frank Warren until earlier this year. All his previous fights aired on Boxnation.

Gavin-D 03-08-2017 08:47
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New sky rewards announced

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2017/08/2.jpg

Richc1977 03-08-2017 10:08
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Frank Lampard joins BT Sport. Very good signing in my view.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...sport-10921592

denphone 03-08-2017 10:12
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Another spice boy joins the club...

muppetman11 03-08-2017 11:57
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910536)
Another spice boy joins the club...
Agreed , him and Redknapp can have a head to head as Britain's best dressed pundit.:D

denphone 03-08-2017 12:01
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35910556)
Agreed , him and Redknapp can have a head to head as Britain's best dressed pundit.:D
BT Sport cannot seem to think outside the box when it comes to picking pundits that is for sure as it would be nice to have someone who has a great knowledge of the game plus says what he thinks instead of hiding behind their petticoat.

alwaysabear 03-08-2017 12:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910557)
BT Sport cannot seem to think outside the box when it comes to picking pundits that is for sure as it would be nice to have someone who has a great knowledge of the game plus says what he thinks instead of hiding behind their petticoat.
They got to keep in the football family. A good pundit is someone who says it how it is! Not many ex players will ever do that for fear of upsetting the football family.:erm: The media companies need to be brave as you have said Den.

Gavin-D 03-08-2017 14:54
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Niall Quinn leaves Sky Sports

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ves-sky-sports

denphone 03-08-2017 16:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35910595)
Thank god for that..:)

pengedragon 03-08-2017 17:14
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Just had an offer from Now TV. Sport pass for £20 a month for 4 months

---------- Post added at 17:14 ---------- Previous post was at 17:09 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910557)
BT Sport cannot seem to think outside the box when it comes to picking pundits that is for sure as it would be nice to have someone who has a great knowledge of the game plus says what he thinks instead of hiding behind their petticoat.
I've not forgiven them for ditching the excellent European Football Show pundits from Sunday evenings

Richc1977 03-08-2017 18:42
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https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_87239365

Rumoured on digitalspy that BT Sport have won exclusive rights to EFL, announcement coming Friday morning.

Please be true!

pengedragon 03-08-2017 18:53
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Wow, BT Sport are not going away are they, this is huge if true

denphone 03-08-2017 19:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910652)
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_87239365

Rumoured on digitalspy that BT Sport have won exclusive rights to EFL, announcement coming Friday morning.

Please be true!
If that is true then Sky will be pooing in their pants after tomorrow morning.

muppetman11 03-08-2017 19:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910652)
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_87239365

Rumoured on digitalspy that BT Sport have won exclusive rights to EFL, announcement coming Friday morning.

Please be true!
Oh dear should make Sky Football one to not bother with if true :D

Richc1977 03-08-2017 19:12
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910663)
If that is true then Sky will be pooing in their pants after tomorrow morning.
The price of SKY over paying for PL perhaps?

If true I wonder if it includes the League Cup as well?

Come next PL auction BT could be a bit more relaxed and just make sure they keep their 42 games, in fact BT would probably be happy to drop the midweeks.

I need to calm down and not get ahead myself here :D

muppetman11 03-08-2017 19:17
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35910666)
The price of SKY over paying for PL perhaps?

If true I wonder if it includes the League Cup as well?

Come next PL auction BT could be a bit more relaxed and just make sure they keep their 42 games, in fact BT would probably be happy to drop the midweeks.

I need to calm down and not get ahead myself here :D
Just read this so I'm not sure how credible the info is , I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_87240232 Post #338

Arthurgray50@blu 03-08-2017 19:37
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I cannot see Sky losing TV rights whatsoever.

BT may put in crazy money, but The EFL and PL will stay with them. BT will probably get the normal.

Dave42 03-08-2017 20:21
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910663)
If that is true then Sky will be pooing in their pants after tomorrow morning.
if it is true sky will up bid for premier league big time to make sure they keep that there right in brown stuff if lose that

denphone 03-08-2017 20:28
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35910677)
if it is true sky will up bid for premier league big time to make sure they keep that there right in brown stuff if lose that
And that means large price rises sadly Dave.

Dave42 03-08-2017 20:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910680)
And that means large price rises sadly Dave.
prise will only go up anyway we all know that Den

theone2k10 03-08-2017 20:32
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35910663)
If that is true then Sky will be pooing in their pants after tomorrow morning.
Interesting i wonder if that's why SKY offered me SKYQ free with top pack for £40pm for 3 years (18 month contract) today when i phoned to drop my skygo extra sub.

Paul 03-08-2017 20:40
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I hope its not true, that would make it far more expensive. :(

Its only £4 extra now to add EFL to your sport on Sky.

I seriously doubt you will get BT sport for £4 extra.


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