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OLD BOY 28-04-2022 07:24

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36120313)
Wow - has the worm turned? OB admitting that Streaming is expensive!

For sport it is, yes, because they are spread amongst too many providers. Consolidation may happen with time.

bluecatt73 28-04-2022 09:31

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120333)
For sport it is, yes, because they are spread amongst too many providers. Consolidation may happen with time.

But this is the opposite of what's happening. Sports rights are increasingly fragmenting.

1andrew1 28-04-2022 14:03

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Originally Posted by bluecatt73 (Post 36120337)
But this is the opposite of what's happening. Sports rights are increasingly fragmenting.

Yes and no. I suspect many of the newer players except Amazon will exit the market in five years.

Consolidation
  • BT Sport and Eurosport UK are combining.
  • Premier Sports acquired use of the Box Nation brand.

Fragmentation - new entrants
  • Amazon
  • DAZN
  • Fite
  • Viasport

Exits
  • Eleven Sports
  • ESPN
  • Setanta
  • ITV pay-per-view

jfman 28-04-2022 14:09

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120333)
For sport it is, yes, because they are spread amongst too many providers. Consolidation may happen with time.

I’m glad that you accept that ultimately the failure of many of these streamers in their own right - given the absence of viable business models - is desirable.

TimeLord2018 28-04-2022 18:31

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I noticed Premier Sports isn't available on either Sky Glass or Virgin Media stream.

1andrew1 28-04-2022 18:49

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36120420)
I noticed Premier Sports isn't available on either Sky Glass or Virgin Media stream.

Agreed.

I also see that sister channel FreeSports has made it to VM Stream but not to Sky Glass.

Itshim 28-04-2022 18:53

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Didn't really listen to radio story but it sounded as if the government is going to make a number of national team sports ,must be first offered to free to air broadcaster's .

Richardr 28-04-2022 19:56

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120287)
Additionally, live streaming on them isn’t that good at the moment either.

Not sure that is necessarily the case. Assuming you are talking about the picture, on BT Sport Ultimate it is 4K and HDR streamed on both the Xbox and the Roku (and no doubt others), and looks better than any broadcast platform. On SkyQ and my LG TV the Amazon Prime football picture is as good as any broadcast platform.

jfman 28-04-2022 20:49

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On Now (with Boost) it’s 1080p50. Whereas broadcast Sky Sports HD is 1080i.

OLD BOY 29-04-2022 08:53

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120380)
I’m glad that you accept that ultimately the failure of many of these streamers in their own right - given the absence of viable business models - is desirable.

I do accept that this is the case for the sports streamers. However, for dramas, films, documentaries and basically all categories that are not sport-related, a good choice of streamers is a good thing.

Some people moan about not having enough to watch, yet they complain that there is too much choice, which I find curious, to say the least.

jfman 29-04-2022 09:38

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120446)
I do accept that this is the case for the sports streamers. However, for dramas, films, documentaries and basically all categories that are not sport-related, a good choice of streamers is a good thing.

Some people moan about not having enough to watch, yet they complain that there is too much choice, which I find curious, to say the least.

There’s nothing curious about not wanting to be hit in the pocket to fund loss making operations propped up by venture capital or the hopes and dreams of Silicon Valley.

The longer they stay in the market they drive up content costs for consumers, businesses with viable business models and even the free to air market. There’s nothing, absolutely nothing, desirable about that.

TimeLord2018 29-04-2022 11:19

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Channel 4 wins rights to England's European Qualifiers and UEFA Nations League matches
https://www.channel4.com/press/news/...league-matches

1701-e 29-04-2022 11:25

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And sky sports subscribers await a price reduction lol

OLD BOY 29-04-2022 11:49

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120453)
There’s nothing curious about not wanting to be hit in the pocket to fund loss making operations propped up by venture capital or the hopes and dreams of Silicon Valley.

The longer they stay in the market they drive up content costs for consumers, businesses with viable business models and even the free to air market. There’s nothing, absolutely nothing, desirable about that.

So you think that the non-sports streamers are costlier than Sky? I don’t buy that, although it’s true that if you subscribe to them all at the same time, that is more expensive.

As for sports, it is most certainly a problem that these are scattered over so many streamers, but I do expect there will be consolidation over time.

Incidentally, the inroads into football are showing no signs of abating.

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ll_484573.html

[EXTRACT]

The agreement with UEFA will see Viaplay replace Sky Sports as the exclusive UK home of European qualifiers for the 2026 World Cup 2026, Euro 2028 and the Nations League from 2024 to 2027, in addition to international friendlies.


Viaplay also gains the rights from Sky to all of those competitions involving other European national teams, apart from England but including the likes of France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Germany and Spain.

muppetman11 29-04-2022 13:43

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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36120471)
And sky sports subscribers await a price reduction lol

Why should you expect a reduction ?


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