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herbert clinker 09-11-2005 18:32

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why do i get the feeling there are gonna be a lot of people who've upgraded from 2 mb to 10mb gonna be on this site complaining next bill time that there being charged 37.99 a month because what they thought was a free upgrade wasn't.
i hope everybody who upgraded asked what they will be paying next time the bill comes in.
because when i asked i was told the 10 mb free upgrade was for present 3mb customers only.
if a 2mb customer wanted 10mb they would have to upgrade to the 37.99 tier.
so if you want my advice ask if its free before upgrading from 2mb.

Frank 09-11-2005 18:33

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Originally Posted by Colli
The whole situation is a complete farce. From scanning the posts, it seems that some of us (myself included) have been upgraded before we were actually supposed to be, resulting in a variety a problems. These issues include modems/STBs not being able to deal with the new increased speed and certain areas of the network not having been fully upgraded yet.

My guess is that NTL was planning to distribute new modems and complete all necessary work nationwide before upgrading everyone to 10Mbit. However, since a few CS Agents have jumped the gun, there is now a state of disarray amongst those still seeking the upgrade and those who have it but are having problems.

From reading the posts it is evident that what you have posted above is incorrect. Firstly, the speed is UP TO 10Mbps (clearly posted), which obviously applies to modems unable to support the full 10Mbps. Once the rollout is complete, I'm sure if you are one of these customers you can get a modem upgrade.

Secondly, it has been clearly stated that this is a staggered rollout and not available in all areas yet, but that existing customers who are within a rolled out area can request the upgrade.

Thirdly, the whole idea of a staggered rollout is that the work that needs to be done is done in stages, and the end result being that all areas can receive the new speed.

Lastly, I don't see any CSRs that have jumped the gun here, merely customers who think that they are entitled to 10Mbps despite the fact that it is not available in their areas for all the reasons above.

Mr Clean 09-11-2005 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by herbert clinker
why do i get the feeling there are gonna be a lot of people who've upgraded from 2 mb to 10mb gonna be on this site complaining next bill time that there being charged 37.99 a month because what they thought was a free upgrade wasn't.
i hope everybody who upgraded asked what they will be paying next time the bill comes in.
because when i asked i was told the 10 mb free upgrade was for present 3mb customers only.
if a 2mb customer wanted 10mb they would have to upgrade to the 37.99 tier.
so if you want my advice ask if its free before upgrading from 2mb.

People should take heed of this Post.

Frank 09-11-2005 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by herbert clinker
i hope everybody who upgraded asked what they will be paying next time the bill comes in.
because when i asked i was told the 10 mb free upgrade was for present 3mb customers only.
if a 2mb customer wanted 10mb they would have to upgrade to the 37.99 tier.
so if you want my advice ask if its free before upgrading from 2mb.

Will obviously its not free for those people on 2Mbps for the reasons you have stated.

jrhnewark 09-11-2005 18:34

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Thanks for the logical approach, Frank. :)

Frank 09-11-2005 18:35

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
ok, this is getting silly - perhaps Mick or someone can ask NTL for an official line on what's the 'official truth'.

ntl have our contact information and I can guarantee you that they are reading this thread. It appears that they have chosen not to communicate with us on this matter, although if this changes we would be happy to post their communication for clarification purposes.

IvIaXiIvIuS 09-11-2005 18:36

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Originally Posted by Colli
IvIaXiIvIuS, do you have any way of knowing for sure that it is your Terayon that is holding your connection back (albeit slightly)?

Using ethernet connection and its on a recently upgraded pc with full 100mbit duplex capabilities so i would presume it is the modem that is holding it back slightly.As i said before,the speeds i am getting at the moment with it suits me fine as i don't use newsgroups,loads pages marginally quicker than before,and get better ping reply helping with game play.


<Edit> Just found this if anyone is interested in certain specs for the terayon
Quote:

The ability to provide this high speed data is not limited to 12K on the standard set up, as it is able to download at up to 76 times quicker than this! 38Mbps to be precise but it is unlikely that we will get to see this.
The reason it can download at these speeds is because it is intended for useage on small business servers and workstation collections. Up to 16 PC`s can be connected up for provision from one modem.
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/modems-commu...-modem/364004/

herbert clinker 09-11-2005 18:43

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Originally Posted by Frank
Will obviously its not free for those people on 2Mbps for the reasons you have stated.

yes but i got the impression that there were people on this forum who have upgraded from 2mb and they think they will still be only being charged 24.99.
i think they could be in for a shock,i hope not but after my conversation with a nice lady at customer services this morning i think they might.

Mr Clean 09-11-2005 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by herbert clinker
yes but i got the impression that there were people on this forum who have upgraded from 2mb and they think they will still be only being charged 24.99.
i think they could be in for a shock,i hope not but after my conversation with a nice lady at customer services this morning i think they might.

As everyone has upgraded to the top tier, 3Mb - 10Mb, it seems only natural that they'll have to pay £37.99 for it. You get what you ask/pay for. If anyone was unsure, they should've asked and got all the facts before jumping the gun.

.....and seeing as everything is far from factual at the minute with this Upgrade. I think there will be a few :Yikes: when the bills are opened.

Albie 09-11-2005 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by herbert clinker
yes but i got the impression that there were people on this forum who have upgraded from 2mb and they think they will still be only being charged 24.99.
i think they could be in for a shock,i hope not but after my conversation with a nice lady at customer services this morning i think they might.



Yes, a guy at CS was upgrading me to 10Mb when I asked him if it was a free upgrade. He said my bill would change to £37.99. I told him to stop.

Colli 09-11-2005 18:52

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From reading the posts it is evident that what you have posted above is incorrect. Firstly, the speed is UP TO 10Mbps (clearly posted), which obviously applies to modems unable to support the full 10Mbps. Once the rollout is complete, I'm sure if you are one of these customers you can get a modem upgrade.

Secondly, it has been clearly stated that this is a staggered rollout and not available in all areas yet, but that existing customers who are within a rolled out area can request the upgrade.

Thirdly, the whole idea of a staggered rollout is that the work that needs to be done is done in stages, and the end result being that all areas can receive the new speed.

Lastly, I don't see any CSRs that have jumped the gun here, merely customers who think that they are entitled to 10Mbps despite the fact that it is not available in their areas for all the reasons above.
Frank, I am well aware that the new service will be up to 10Mbit and I have reiterated numerous times that I am prepared to wait to see what happens. As for the staggered rollout: I requested the upgrade and was given it despite the fact the my area is still undergoing work and is not ready for the upgrade - having spoken to another CS Agent, Glasgow and the surrounding areas are not fully ready for 10Mbit. So why was I given it when I requested it? I wasn't even advised re my modem's capabilities.

So forgive me, but it sounds like the Agent who upgraded me did indeed jump the gun.

Tuftus 09-11-2005 18:52

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Originally Posted by jamgood
As everyone has upgraded to the top tier, 3Mb - 10Mb, it seems only natural that they'll have to pay £37.99 for it. You get what you ask/pay for. If anyone was unsure, they should've asked and got all the facts before jumping the gun.

.....and seeing as everything is far from factual at the minute with this Upgrade. I think there will be a few :Yikes: when the bills are opened.

Oh no!!! We just cannot have tears in the cornflakes!!!!

:D :D :D

ant78 09-11-2005 19:02

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Ok im getting sick of everbody who have found it easy to upgrade! I made 4 calls today to cs to upgrade my 3mb to 10mb,
The 1st call went well with a nice lady trying to get me connected but she had never done this before so she asked tech support for help....i was on hold for 5 mins she came back and said sorry the service is still being rolled out and i would recive it sometime in dec :(
The second time was a complete nightmare,ive only been with ntl for 1 month and heard scary things about cs staff! I said can i be upgraded please and she said i cant go any further than 3mb, She has never even heard about 10mb and said that i must of been thinking of telewest!
3rd time was short and sweet, spoke to some bloke who said that the network was still in the early stages of being tested and come back jan/feb 2006!
The 4th time p**sed me right off, knowing that my mate has it and that i can recive it i told them this and she said sorry 3mb is the tops for you, so i downgraded to 1mb untill i get the "MAGIC LETTER" she said i would recive when its in my area.

Being with telewest for 4 years was bliss compared to the s**te cs service i have recived in the past opening month of my time here. Lairs and idiots only spring to mind :(

Salu 09-11-2005 19:04

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I just called CS and spoke to someone who said the trial blurb above and said mid to end of December. When questioned about this forum she spoke to a supervisor and said that they could do it on a trial basis but I would not have any tech support during the trial. I said that was OK and she said she would do it.
A few seconds later she came on and said that it would not let her do it. She tried again and still no luck.

I'm in Leeds btw....

Also, I was warned about trying the downgrade to 2MB and then use the website to upgrade, way. The reason is that you are only allowed two tier changes per month. If I tried to go to 2mb and then attempted to upgrade to 10mb but it only gave me 3mb, then I may miss the auto upgrade...

Tuftus 09-11-2005 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ant78
Ok im getting sick of everbody who have found it easy to upgrade! I made 4 calls today to cs to upgrade my 3mb to 10mb,
The 1st call went well with a nice lady trying to get me connected but she had never done this before so she asked tech support for help....i was on hold for 5 mins she came back and said sorry the service is still being rolled out and i would recive it sometime in dec :(
The second time was a complete nightmare,ive only been with ntl for 1 month and heard scary things about cs staff! I said can i be upgraded please and she said i cant go any further than 3mb, She has never even heard about 10mb and said that i must of been thinking of telewest!
3rd time was short and sweet, spoke to some bloke who said that the network was still in the early stages of being tested and come back jan/feb 2006!
The 4th time p**sed me right off, knowing that my mate has it and that i can recive it i told them this and she said sorry 3mb is the tops for you, so i downgraded to 1mb untill i get the "MAGIC LETTER" she said i would recive when its in my area.

Being with telewest for 4 years was bliss compared to the s**te cs service i have recived in the past opening month of my time here. Lairs and idiots only spring to mind :(

Yeah, ok... So it is rumoured to be a Free *automatic* upgrade that you will / would have got at an *unspecified* time. So you had to hassle them for it?

:rolleyes:

And YOU get peed off?

:rolleyes:

How do you think the CS guys / gals felt over the last two days with people like you and others demanding to be upgraded?


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