Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36196002)

I think Labour are doing a good job. They said not everyone will be happy with the tough decisions they will have to make which is proving to be. I totally agree with the the decision to axe the fuel allowance for all pensioners for the very reason many DON'T need it. The time to judge Labour is in 4 years time not now. Reform won't last long once people see how they mess up the council's they run.

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36195983)

Perhaps a change of name from NHS to" national hold your hand you poor hard done by thing "

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36195984)

It sounds as if you actually believe the NHS scare that Labour has used against the Conservatives for many, many decades. Clearly, you haven't taken into account of the fact that this still hasn't happened, and that the most significant increase in private sector involvement in the NHS happened under Blair's Labour Government.

Now you turn the same faux concern against Reform. Do change the record.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36195996)

To all you Labour supporters who still don't comment on Starmer's outcomes so far:

Do you think Starmer and his team are doing a good job and if do why? I'll concede that Wes Streeting seems to be doing a reasonable job.

All I see is Reform bad this, Tories bad that but you seem too embarrassed to criticise your darling Labour who are royally screwing up the people and the economy.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36196010)

Can you post your evidence "that many don't need it"

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36196010)

Can you post your evidence "that many don't need it"

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36196019)

How,I don't know everyone but I do know several pensioners who have told me they don't need it. One of them gave it to me because I do need it but don't qualify for it yet

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36196016)

I really hope you don't get seriously ill but if you do you'll find it's the NHS that treats you and not your private scheme

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36196023)

Depends on how you look at it. I probably know about 20 pensioners and at least 14 of them say they don't need it. And let's not forget all pensioners got it under the old system INCLUDING millionaire celebrities! Was it fair they got it? Absolutely not!

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36196035)

And here is the opposite argument, my Father in law is bed ridden and needs constant care. We submitted his application when all this came out and they said he is £30:00 a month over so no additional support. As a family we now cover his heating bills and as a family we will all be voting against Labour at the next election. We do not understand Labours attacks on pensioners and the disabled .

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36196035)

And here is the opposite argument, my Father in law is bed ridden and needs constant care. We submitted his application when all this came out and they said he is £30:00 a month over so no additional support. As a family we now cover his heating bills and as a family we will all be voting against Labour at the next election. We do not understand Labours attacks on pensioners and the disabled .

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36196016)

I really hope you don't get seriously ill but if you do you'll find it's the NHS that treats you and not your private scheme



Yes don't believe farage when he has repeatedly said he wants to privatise the NHS, they were saying that about donnie too, don't believe what he says, look how that's turned out for America so no thanks I won't be changing the record till farage does




Royally screwing the economy, conveniently forgetting the Billions black hole they inherited, I quite like gb energy, I like the rail nationalisation, the brining of buses under local government control and keeping the fares down, I like the breakfast clubs very much, I also like the housing reforms that have closed many of the loopholes the Conservatives put in place to avoid meeting targets, the compulsory purchase orders are good too as is the protections in place for renters, the ban on being forced to sign a zero hours contract, scrapping the Rwandan white elephant, getting to the heart of small boats and going after the gangs may work better than expected, sorting out the junior doctors dispute. That'll do of the top of my head but there's much they've done they doesn't get reported in our right wing press, so yes compared to the alternatives I'm very happy.




The 27% of pensioners who are millionaires...

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36196019)

How,I don't know everyone but I do know several pensioners who have told me they don't need it. One of them gave it to me because I do need it but don't qualify for it yet

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36196064)

A pensioner I know was most put out because she used to use that money for her holidays!

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36196064)

A pensioner I know was most put out because she used to use that money for her holidays!

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36196065)