Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

The petition is up to 15,086 Signatures Total on 02/07/2008 :angel:

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No comments on #10691 :erm:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Oh dear.

I'll file that in my copyright evidence folder.

You see, you're required to obtain a copyright licence IN ADVANCE before you copy, adapt, and sell a literary work. Copyright exists by default, unless you have the express consent of the owner of the literary work, you must therefore assume it is copyright. And the copyright in literary work lasts 70 years from the authors death if I recall correctly, 50 years if its a computer generated work.

So sadly for BT, they can't rely on a 'there was nothing to stop me' defence.

Copyright owners are not obliged to notify all ISPs in the world that they don't want their work copied, nor are they obliged to block legitimate end users from accessing their content using IP ranges, nor are they required to create a robots.txt that somehow permits* Phorm. ISPs are obliged to obtain a copyright licence in advance.

But quite apart from that, mass surveillance should never happen. The right to privacy, security, and integrity of communication must never be compromised by communication service providers. That's what they are paid for, its what a democracy requires, and you can't run an economy without it.

*Bearing in mind, robots.txt is EXCLUSIVE (disallow) not INCLUSIVE (allow). See parasitestxt.org for a comparable industry standard for INCLUSIVE robot control.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

On the internet no one should hear your stream.

That came to me on the bus into work just now.

EDIT: he made me do it.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Phorm: The 666th sense...
"I see stream, people!"


I fear the thread digressing again :erm:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

If anyone fancies looking the part for the protest they can get T-Shirts here:

http://nodpi.spreadshirt.net/en/GB/Shop

I just got one myself so people will be able to identify me on the day.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

what no guy forks masks so they can`t phomally id you all and serve you with ad,s:P

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hehehehe

Alexander Hanff

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I was looking over the last few pages of the thread this morning and was going to make the same point but you beat me to it. :tu:

This is a very good argument against the only "benefit" webwise offers.

> As an average web user why should I want webwise?

> Because it protects you from phising attacks for free

> Only the ones that don't use SSL - which is a diminishing percentage. The freely available browser based solutions that are enabled by default can stop every phishing attempt that webwise can and many more.

That's very difficult to argue against. The only thing missing is some hard facts on how common https versus http phishing urls are. I've had a look but so far only found anecdotal evidence from several years ago.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hi All

Just put up a new version of my Kent Down The Pan, this one is an Anti-Phorm Video, the text on You Tube is this: This is an Anti-Phorm Video, to find out about Phorm and the Anti-Phorm campaign go to: www.nodpi.org or www.badPhorm.co.uk

The new video is Here enjoy. :D

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

'Speechless' is the word you are looking for.
Most call centre staff are only paid by success and probably you were not the first to mention webwise that day. Maybe there is a big sign saying 'don't talk about webwise'.

Almost as good as the call I had from whichever call centre was promoting BT broadband - back in the days when the discount was about £10 per month. Poor telesales had no idea what Webwise was and assured me that Webwise was not part of the features and that if Webwise was put on the system I could cancel any time I wanted to. If only I had had a tape recorder.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Skype + Pamela :)

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I do have a tape recorder I can bug my home Phone, but not my Mobil what thay Phoned me on! Dddddddddddddddddddddrat :erm:

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Well then, I believe that given that the various music and movie publishing companies haven't taken sufficient steps to make their works un-copyable, so I shall assume that consent is implied and not feel guilty when I download 50gb of music later.

</sarcasm>

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BT WEBWISE

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