Cable Forum - General ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news

What I’ve been saying all along. An exclusively streaming service can’t establish the critical mass required for a sustainable business model.

A linear presence in addition to streaming - essentially the status quo - is a much more desirable proposition.

I saw what you did there! :D

jfman

18-09-2021 22:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093607)

I saw what you did there! :D

It’s not sleight of hand OB. Sky and BT both stream, this has never been hidden.

OLD BOY

19-09-2021 00:03

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36093622)

It’s not sleight of hand OB. Sky and BT both stream, this has never been hidden.

I have never said that they didn’t. Once again, you are twisting it.

Before that post, you were identifying with the people who were trying to put across an argument that the streamers would not make a serious bid for Premier League football. Now you have modified your argument that the streamers would not bid for the rights for streaming exclusively.

That’s OK and it has been noted. But you have modified your view.

vincerooney

19-09-2021 00:32

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36093548)

My Sources are now saying that DAZN are leading the bidding race to buy BT Sport.

who owns DAZN? Is it a solid company or going to do a setanta sports if they stretch themselves too far...

Paul	19-09-2021 00:53

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They are owned by Access Industries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Industries

jfman

19-09-2021 07:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36093647)

That’s no modification of anything OB.

I’ve said streaming services can’t make the business model work. If DAZN enter the market by buying (a stake in) BT Sport and maintaining their linear presence nobody would credibly claim that to be the rights moving to a streaming service in the UK.

telegramsam

19-09-2021 08:44

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If DAZN sports move in to buy BT Sport doesn't that make it a streaming service is moving into the linear channel way of providing sport? This would indicate their acknowledgement that streaming alone wouldn't be enough

jfman

19-09-2021 08:47

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36093683)

Precisely this.

Chad	19-09-2021 20:42

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Watched an interview with boxing promoter Frank Warren a few days ago. He mentioned the wheels are in motion for BoxNation to make a comeback soon.

I found this a little odd as BoxNation was left to fester when Warren moved his stable of fighters over to BT.

Wonder if he's had the heads up that a deal between BT and DAZN is imminent and he's not part of the new owners plans?

I know it's a bit of a stretch but I doubt Eddie Hearn would welcome Warren with open arms on to the DAZN platform and I can't see Warren wanting to move there either.

I'm just speculating

jfman

20-09-2021 09:11

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The boxing situation is a strange one. AJ has another fight on Sky Sports and DAZN claim they aren’t going to operate a pay per view channel (although for now BT do).

While Fury fights on BT Frank always speaks in quite vague terms about this as if BT don’t have exclusive rights as such, but perhaps have the opportunity to match another broadcaster.

Both boxers however might find they can get a bit more money for themselves aligning to the same network for 4 fights as there will be an inevitable rematch and the prospect of a “trilogy” depending on the results of the first two. It’s also hard to see, given the ability to promote it constantly on SSN, how that wouldn’t be pay per view on Sky if both boxers want to maximise income.

DAZN despite “deep pockets” had to renege on their Canelo deal and after fighting some slabs of meat for fun he’s now fighting Caleb Plant on Showtime in the states in his biggest fight since Golovkin in 2018.

Media Boy UK

20-09-2021 11:44

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36093745)

Boxnation is part of Premier Sports Pack.

---------- Post added at 11:44 ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 ----------

Talking about Boxing. Former Scottish boxer Jim Watt MBE cousin work for Virgin Media Customer Service. I got him when I called up to add Premier Sports in July.

1andrew1

21-09-2021 12:47

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DAZN, the sports streaming service owned by billionaire Sir Leonard Blavatnik, is in advanced talks to buy BT’s sports business.

An agreement between the two companies could be struck within weeks, according to multiple people with direct knowledge of the talks...

A sale is complicated by a cross-licensing deal that BT has with Sky, meaning the satellite broadcaster has to approve the deal. The two companies have held talks over a potential change in ownership.

BT could still opt to partner with another player on sports broadcasting or keep the business in-house.

https://www.ft.com/content/8c0ffe51-...b-54401e62dada

jfman

22-09-2021 11:21

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36093910)

https://www.ft.com/content/8c0ffe51-...b-54401e62dada

A lot of noise being generated around this. It’s all exciting a real litmus test for OB’s glorious streaming future is how quickly (if indeed it would happen at all) would DAZN seek to save the buttons it costs to maintain a linear presence.

1andrew1

22-09-2021 11:46

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36093976)

As we know, sports rights costs are minimal, it's the platform fees that Freeview, VM et al charge that go into billions. :D