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pip08456 24-12-2021 20:29

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36107004)
One of my concerns is over the interpretation of antibody levels. The way the immune system works is that it isn't pumping out antibodies for everything for the rest of your life. A few months after an infection or vaccination, the level of antibodies for the infection goes away quite naturally.
All vaccinations actually do is prepare the immune system to be able to respond a bit quicker to a reinfection. It doesn't have to work out the antibody to deal with it, it already knows what to do.
If covid is too quick for that response, then antibodies need to be present. If covid isn't that quick, then boosters aren't really required and all the talk of low antibody levels being a problem is misleading.


papa smurf 24-12-2021 20:39

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36107005)
Project fear in full swing, get a life people, and stop living under the stairs it's actually quite nice outside, honestly, no scary monsters.

:tu:

Paul 24-12-2021 23:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36107005)
Project fear in full swing, get a life people, and stop living under the stairs it's actually quite nice outside, honestly, no scary monsters.

For the first time this week, I'm actually at home all day, relaxing. :D
All my shopping is done, and the last of my eating out before xmas was on Tuesday.

nomadking 24-12-2021 23:17

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36107006)

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In general, the amount of antibody that is present declines over time after an infection has been cleared.
Sometimes, doctors can still measure antibodies after many years — as is the case with measles; and sometimes the antibodies go away more quickly, he added.
“But one of the really clever things about the immune system is that the cells that make this antibody then persist at some low level and form a population of memory cells that are there and able to respond much more briskly if the same pathogen or invader is encountered again on another occasion,” Kuritzkes said.
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Quickly making lots of antibodies can stop an infection in its tracks. The first time your body fights a virus, it can take up to 15 days to make enough antibodies to get rid of it. With the help of Memory B-cells, the second time your body sees that virus, it can do the same in thing 5 days. It also makes 100 times more antibodies than it did the first time. The faster your body makes antibodies, the quicker the virus can be destroyed. With the help of Memory B-cells, you might get rid of it before you even feel sick. This is called gaining immunity.

OLD BOY 26-12-2021 03:20

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I’ve been ignoring the hype the last few days and enjoying Christmas with my whole family. I am much more relaxed as a result.

I am not stressing about this any longer. I’d advise the rest of you to do the same. Just enjoy life while you have one.

A life spent under the stairs is no life at all. Just get your jabs and relax.

GrimUpNorth 26-12-2021 12:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107055)
I’ve been ignoring the hype the last few days and enjoying Christmas with my whole family. I am much more relaxed as a result.

I am not stressing about this any longer. I’d advise the rest of you to do the same. Just enjoy life while you have one.

A life spent under the stairs is no life at all. Just get your jabs and relax.

Is that because you've had a few days off worrying about what Coronavirus rubbish and inaccuracies to post next? ;)

OLD BOY 26-12-2021 13:04

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36107069)
Is that because you've had a few days off worrying about what Coronavirus rubbish and inaccuracies to post next? ;)

No, but the constant drip, drip of negative coronavirus stories on the BBC and elsewhere is worrying my wife to death and I have to deal with this every day. It’s bloody exhausting and it’s being going on constantly for months and months.

I want to hear the rest of the news we are missing out on.

Mad Max 26-12-2021 13:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107071)
No, but the constant drip, drip of negative coronavirus stories on the BBC and elsewhere is worrying my wife to death and I have to deal with this every day. It’s bloody exhausting and it’s being going on constantly for months and months.

I want to hear the rest of the news we are missing out on.

Agreed.

pip08456 26-12-2021 14:13

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Omicron cases are falling.

Correction, growth rate is falling which will lead to cases doing so as well.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1640527954

Taf 26-12-2021 15:30

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If our blood held on to all the antibodies we produce, it would set like concrete.

The memory cells will still be lying in wait though, although they can take a few days to make enough antibodies to combat a nasty strain of viral infection.

"Unvaccinated people who catch Covid are 60 TIMES more likely to end up in intensive care".

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/fam...Znh?li=AAJt1k3

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Speaking on Sky News on 19 December, the health secretary Sajid Javid said: “If we look at those that are the most ill in hospital, needing the most care and attention, around nine out of 10 of them are unvaccinated.”

Full Fact asked the Department of Health and Social Care what Mr Javid meant. It told us that his nine out of 10 figure did not refer to all patients in ICU, but only those receiving Extra Corporeal Membrane Oxygenation (ECMO) treatment, essentially a type of artificial lung which oxygenates the blood.

Data on this shows that of 154 patients in England who received ECMO due to a Covid infection between the beginning of July and 22 November, 141 were unvaccinated. This amounts to about 92%, and is similar to the figures reported previously in the Sunday Times.
https://fullfact.org/health/unvaccin...annel4-icnarc/

Sephiroth 26-12-2021 15:55

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With a bit of luck, all the unvaccinated will get Covid and then it’ll all be over.

It really is time to untype Covid.

papa smurf 26-12-2021 16:26

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36107086)
With a bit of luck, all the unvaccinated will get Covid and then it’ll all be over.

It really is time to untype Covid.

What makes you think they haven't had it.

Sephiroth 26-12-2021 16:28

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36107087)
What makes you think they haven't had it.

The Covid data plus Guvmin statements.

papa smurf 26-12-2021 16:33

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36107088)
The Covid data plus Guvmin statements.

oh yea i bet that's all true just like all the other guvmin garbage.

Hom3r 26-12-2021 17:05

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My niece tested positive, but luckily her isolation ended on the 23rd.


So Christmas was able to sort of happen.


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