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OLD BOY 28-05-2021 19:44
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36081156)
It's magnetism innit ;)

At Earths core is this big ball of iron, spinning at a (relatively) fast speed. All the stuff around it is static, and this creates a magnetic field which stretches up into the atmosphere.

Some naturally occurring elements (gasses mainly) have evolved to the stage where they incorporate a special (hidden) molecule that allows them to oppose the magnetic force that would, under normal circumstances, make them come crashing down. Scientists, Physicists and Molecular Engineers have been trying to isolate this molecule for years - for obvious reason.

This magnetic force is the reason people with metal false hips & knees used to walk funny, and why people who wear glasses are always having to push them back up on their nose :D

I may write a thesis on it someday ;)
You forgot that bit about the Earth’s mass. :idea:

Hugh 28-05-2021 21:38
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Didn’t realise the Earth was Catholic?

Pierre 28-05-2021 22:41
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Well you need to differentiate whether you’re talking about the impact of the force of Earths gravity on the beings that inhabit the planet, and the effect of the Earth on the fabric of space/time and the gravitational impacts that result from that.

Sephiroth 28-05-2021 23:10
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36081203)
Well you need to differentiate whether you’re talking about the impact of the force of Earths gravity on the beings that inhabit the planet, and the effect of the Earth on the fabric of space/time and the gravitational impacts that result from that.
That would involve triaxellation of the space/time continuum.

Carth 28-05-2021 23:17
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I'm not well versed on the fabric of space/time and the gravitational impacts from it, but I can tell you the moon has a similar magnetic set up to earth.

In the case of the moon though, the magnetic field repels instead of attracts . . . . which is why there's bugger all up there. :D

Maggy 29-05-2021 09:36
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Sigh!Topic?

Carth 29-05-2021 09:50
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
oooops, the gravity of the situation requires we come back to earth with a bump ;)

Nissan 'in talks to build huge UK battery factory'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57247758

Seems like nothing definite, but I guess there's some talking being done.

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In a statement, Nissan said: "Having established EV [electric vehicle] and battery production in the UK in 2013 for the Nissan Leaf, our Sunderland plant has played a pioneering role in developing the electric vehicle market.

"As previously announced, we will continue to electrify our line-up as part of our global journey towards carbon neutrality. However, we have no further plans to announce at this time."
Wouldn't having a plant producing these batteries mean possible problems importing the 'materials' in the amount required to do so?

Chris 29-05-2021 10:21
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36081231)
Wouldn't having a plant producing these batteries mean possible problems importing the 'materials' in the amount required to do so?
What particular problems are you thinking of?

nomadking 29-05-2021 10:25
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36081231)
oooops, the gravity of the situation requires we come back to earth with a bump ;)

Nissan 'in talks to build huge UK battery factory'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57247758

Seems like nothing definite, but I guess there's some talking being done.



Wouldn't having a plant producing these batteries mean possible problems importing the 'materials' in the amount required to do so?
How many of the materials come from the EU? Otherwise it's no different to before, and possibly easier when we set the import rules and tariffs.

Carth 29-05-2021 10:31
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36081233)
What particular problems are you thinking of?
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36081234)
How many of the materials come from the EU? Otherwise it's no different to before, and possibly easier when we set the import rules and tariffs.
I've no idea, just vaguely recall reading that there are some 'rare metals' that everyone and his dog are now chasing. Whether they're found in Europe, South America, India etc I don't know. If they are that rare, I can't see other countries giving them up cheaply :shrug:

nomadking 29-05-2021 10:40
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36081235)
I've no idea, just vaguely recall reading that there are some 'rare metals' that everyone and his dog are now chasing. Whether they're found in Europe, South America, India etc I don't know. If they are that rare, I can't see other countries giving them up cheaply :shrug:
Then that's little to do with being inside or outside the EU. Australia, South America, and China, are the major producers of Lithium.

Carth 29-05-2021 10:46
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aah Australia eh

So a deal regarding Australian beef/lamb could be of benefit in other areas?

Chris 29-05-2021 10:58
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
As others have said - car battery raw materials don’t come from the EU, so our non-membership of that institution isn’t an issue. Any battery manufacturer anywhere in the world faces the same issues here. A lot of rare earths come from China, and an increasing number of mines elsewhere in the world are owned by Chinese companies (and are therefore under the influence of the Chinese Communist Party).

Taf 29-05-2021 10:59
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36081236)
Then that's little to do with being inside or outside the EU. Australia, South America, and China, are the major producers of Lithium.
Most manufacturers are moving away from Cobalt in Lithium batteries due to the political fallout from the DR Congo. Lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries are what Elon Musk is chasing.

nomadking 29-05-2021 11:05
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36081237)
aah Australia eh

So a deal regarding Australian beef/lamb could be of benefit in other areas?
How? We are free to set zero tariffs for Lithium, as long as it applies to all countries. The problem in the future, will be exporting the batteries to the EU. EU being awkward as always.

The EU has suspended tariffs on a series of key materials, including Lithium. I should image the UK has followed, or even did so before the EU.
Then there is the future promise of UK produced Lithium from Cornwall. The UK might end up being the world's 2nd largest producer.


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