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gregbrighton 19-08-2013 15:05

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Ah Ok. It's the ipad3 that is crap! (especially if it is slower than my smartphone) Maybe I should accept the limits of my other devices!

I don't think my laptop is an 'n' device. Can anyone suggest a USB adapter I can use with it that is compatible with the Superhub 2?

roger skillin 19-08-2013 15:15

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I don't know anyone that can get full speed on any device using Wifi, it's never going to happen, you're only ever going to get full speed through a wired connection.

For best results on your laptop i would buy - http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1278...OQ#srcid=11270

This will also future proof you as it supports 802.11ac too

BenMcr 19-08-2013 15:58

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Originally Posted by roger skillin (Post 35612506)
I don't know anyone that can get full speed on any device using Wifi, it's never going to happen, you're only ever going to get full speed through a wired connection.

Wouldn't be too sure on that - attached was a speedtest on my S4 I did with a SH2 on 5GHz

Plus my laptop on 5GHz goes faster than it does on wired - due it only having a 100Mbit Ethernet socket

gregbrighton 19-08-2013 16:08

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Thanks for your reply Roger!

Kushan 19-08-2013 16:42

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Originally Posted by roger skillin (Post 35612506)
I don't know anyone that can get full speed on any device using Wifi, it's never going to happen, you're only ever going to get full speed through a wired connection.

I can get full speeds on wireless with my laptop.

roger skillin 19-08-2013 17:47

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35612516)
Wouldn't be too sure on that - attached was a speedtest on my S4 I did with a SH2 on 5GHz

Plus my laptop on 5GHz goes faster than it does on wired - due it only having a 100Mbit Ethernet socket

So you're still getting slower speeds than i get through my Wired connection then?

Kushan 19-08-2013 19:24

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Originally Posted by roger skillin (Post 35612560)
So you're still getting slower speeds than i get through my Wired connection then?

Wireless gets a bad reputation because there's a lot of cheap, crap wireless equipment out there. If everything was 3x3, then it would be a different story. Not saying that it's as good as ethernet, it's not - too many variables with wireless, but to say that nobody can use their full connection on wireless is just wrong.

Here's a speed test I did on my laptop when I got installed:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/16.png

Keep in mind, as I said this laptop has a particularly good wireless card. This test was actually done on the SH2 as well.

qasdfdsaq 19-08-2013 20:28

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35612481)
Sounds like a limitation of your iPad. Most mobile devices can't handle the full 120Mbit.

EDIT: yup, it's a hardware limitation:



Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/a...2012-review/18

40mbit is actually incredibly impressive.

My Galaxy S4 only does one stream yet it connects at 150Mbps and gets full speed on my 72Mbps internet connection.

I can't see anything in that review that says whether or not the iPad supports HT operation in either band, though Apple being Apple it certainly won't in the 2.4Ghz band.

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35612481)
Sounds like a limitation of your iPad. Most mobile devices can't handle the full 120Mbit.

EDIT: yup, it's a hardware limitation:



Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/a...2012-review/18

My Galaxy S4 only does one stream yet it connects at 150Mbps and gets full speed on my 72Mbps internet connection. Chances are it could probably get to 200 once my 867Mbps router arrives.

I can't see anything in that review that says whether or not the iPad supports HT operation in either band, though Apple being Apple it certainly won't in the 2.4Ghz band.

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40mbit is actually incredibly impressive.
I've not been impressed by 40Mbit since the 3-and-a-half-years-old 4-generation-behind Galaxy S1 managed to do that.

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Originally Posted by roger skillin (Post 35612506)
I don't know anyone that can get full speed on any device using Wifi, it's never going to happen, you're only ever going to get full speed through a wired connection.

I know dozens of people who get full speed on Wifi.

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35612593)
If everything was 3x3,

I prefer the 3x4 8-antenna Ciscos tbh, even if Cisco wireless is generally crap.

Kushan 19-08-2013 20:37

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35612629)
My Galaxy S4 only does one stream yet it connects at 150Mbps and gets full speed on my 72Mbps internet connection. Chances are it could probably get to 200 once my 867Mbps router arrives.

That's because Android is better. Fact.*

* not a fact.

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35612629)
I can't see anything in that review that says whether or not the iPad supports HT operation in either band, though Apple being Apple it certainly won't in the 2.4Ghz band.

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the BCM4330 only supports a single spatial stream, for a maximum link speed of 72Mbps.
They might not explicitly state it, but that's probably close enough. Their test results are pretty conclusive as well, 35mbit is about all you can expect on either 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz.

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35612629)
I've not been impressed by 40Mbit since the 3-and-a-half-years-old 4-generation-behind Galaxy S1 managed to do that.

Sure, it's not impressive by wireless standards but it's impressive for something connecting at 72Mbit.


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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35612629)
I prefer the 3x4 8-antenna Ciscos tbh, even if Cisco wireless is generally crap.

There's always going to be something better. It's just such a shame that most consumer stuff seems to be 1x1. It's only relatively recently that this has changed but most people don't know the difference between the various Wireless-N configurations, they just see Wireless-N.

qasdfdsaq 19-08-2013 20:42

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35612593)
Here's a speed test I did on my laptop when I got installed:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/16.png

Keep in mind, as I said this laptop has a particularly good wireless card. This test was actually done on the SH2 as well.

Nice. But it can probably do more :)

My old laptop, with a pretty crap router:
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/1757714849

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35612651)
There's always going to be something better. It's just such a shame that most consumer stuff seems to be 1x1. It's only relatively recently that this has changed but most people don't know the difference between the various Wireless-N configurations, they just see Wireless-N.

Ironic really, since they started off almost all being 2x2, then companies realised they could get away with cost saving and cut it down to 1x1 and still call it "wireless-n", and now they're going back to 2x2 because consumers are wising up... The vast majority of first and second generation consumer wireless-n gear outside of mobile phones was actually 2x2, if not 2x2:3

Chrysalis 19-08-2013 22:52

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my galaxy ace (budget level phone I know) connects at 54mbit even tho advertised wireless N. But with the ace its not relevant as its so weak I cant get throughput anywhere close to the protocol limit.
my galaxy s2 and s3 both connect at 72mbps not 150.

BenMcr 20-08-2013 10:52

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Originally Posted by roger skillin (Post 35612560)
So you're still getting slower speeds than i get through my Wired connection then?

That would be because I haven't yet got my 120Mbit upgrade ;)

jb66 20-08-2013 11:18

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Ive seen 124meg on the superhub 2 5ghz mode quite a few times

Efour 20-08-2013 13:04

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I had my tech visit yesterday and after 10 minutes he identified what none of the others have in the past 2 years of visiting. loads t3 and t4 issues caused by the cabinets amplifier being dodgy and producing too much power.

he said it would be fixed that afternoon.. A van pulled up and was there for about 5 minutes... I didn't lose connection so im assuming they didnt fix the job just looked at it. He assured me it would be fixed that day as it wasnt a big job really. (30 mins)

so with that knowledge im going to assume nothing was fixed....He didn't even change the power levels looking at it. Just passed it onto the network team according to the report sheet i signed.

is it possible anyone that works for VM here can look into it and see if the cabinet at RM111LX had a part changed...?? Or is scheduled for it soon?

I asked if i could have a Superhub 2 and he said yes then changed his mind cos my modem wasn't faulty. BAH :)

myis 21-08-2013 11:04

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