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boroboi 07-03-2012 11:50

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35394549)
what say you.

I say to hell with that. At that point i'd seriously consider dropping tiers and getting an ADSL connection in.

suckaaa 09-03-2012 00:30

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
heres my graph 100 meg vmng and dlink vs the superhub huddersfield area, i bought the vmng of ebay but really cant notice any difference while gaming gears 2 and 3

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-03-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-03-2012.png

craigj2k12 09-03-2012 01:00

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suckaaa (Post 35396062)
heres my graph 100 meg vmng and dlink vs the superhub huddersfield area, i bought the vmng of ebay but really cant notice any difference while gaming gears 2 and 3

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-03-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-03-2012.png

how did you get the stolen modem activated?

Sephiroth 09-03-2012 01:22

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35392866)
its over fibre optic cables so technically it is the speed of light :)

c. 16 ms is the speed of light, plus what Qasi has said.

suckaaa 09-03-2012 02:39

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Lol was it stolen i dont no i rang 150 indian call centre i said virgin sent it me he checked tht it was registered to a different account put me on hold dunno where he went came back and activated it, havent checked speeds on it though upload seems a little lower

Chrysalis 09-03-2012 02:49

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suckaaa (Post 35396062)
heres my graph 100 meg vmng and dlink vs the superhub huddersfield area, i bought the vmng of ebay but really cant notice any difference while gaming gears 2 and 3

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-03-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-03-2012.png

your area is a good VM area.

so far everyone I know who says they see no difference is in low utilised areas.

although I dont know if the jitter differences between the 2 devices would be enough to show in a game. for me its about 5-10ms on pingtest.net difference depending on time of day and the delayed packets seem almost alternate on the superhub which shows noticebly in ssh but I dont game so I have never observed the effect in gaming.

I have also noticed lately that the differences arent so clear on tbb graphs, I found even when the graph looks ok there was noticebly jitter in ssh on my superhub 24/7. Whilst the vmng300 feels slightly jittery but its not really noticeble unless usually about 4-10pm on bad days.

suckaaa 09-03-2012 03:15

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Ive been testing my connection a lot using ping plotter pro the superhub would show some packetloss pinging bbc.co.uk but the vmg and dlink would show 0 packet loss and my tracert results to my my network improved by 1ms with the vmng. Also tested using the comand prompt ping -t google.co.uk etc both would show spikes in the network all times of the day, even early morning, gaming the hub felt better my bullets would connect better gears 2 but that game is broken so i dunno. I also test superhub modem mode with dlink gave me horrible results loads of packet loss.

craigj2k12 09-03-2012 12:49

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suckaaa (Post 35396079)
Lol was it stolen i dont no i rang 150 indian call centre i said virgin sent it me he checked tht it was registered to a different account put me on hold dunno where he went came back and activated it, havent checked speeds on it though upload seems a little lower

according to VMs own terms and conditions, yes :)

qasdfdsaq 09-03-2012 15:31

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suckaaa (Post 35396084)
Ive been testing my connection a lot using ping plotter pro the superhub would show some packetloss pinging bbc.co.uk but the vmg and dlink would show 0 packet loss and my tracert results to my my network improved by 1ms with the vmng. Also tested using the comand prompt ping -t google.co.uk etc both would show spikes in the network all times of the day, even early morning, gaming the hub felt better my bullets would connect better gears 2 but that game is broken so i dunno. I also test superhub modem mode with dlink gave me horrible results loads of packet loss.

1ms is nothing. BT increased my ping by 30ms "to keep my line stable", now all my gaming pings are 50ms+. A power cut has nothing to do with line stability.

Sephiroth 09-03-2012 21:52

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
What does that mean, Qasi? "BT increased my ping by 30 ms". Exactly what did they do and what was the practical effect?

qasdfdsaq 09-03-2012 22:26

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
First thing was, well I don't know, something in the IP profile I believe that increased my latency by 12ms. This is nothing but an artificial delay generated by BT and I don't know how or why.

Secondly they turned on interleaving, three levels of it, increasing my latency by an additional ~8ms each time. On top of the artificial IP profile delay, my overall ping to/from work has more than doubled, so remote desktop feels a little more sluggish. For some reason a couple days later, my download speed also got capped to about 70% of normal.

Gaming feels considerably more sluggish, plus I'm rarely if ever picked as host now, so more often have to suffer laggy foreign hosts with crappy connections on some other continent. Downloads are obviously slower.

Indian phone support claimed to have spotted the problem and were going to fix it today, but haven't. I'll have to get a line profile reset, apparently.

Chrysalis 09-03-2012 22:41

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
BT have DLM which automatically controls line paremeters to maintain stability, FTTC is still subject to things like noise interference so BT have kept DLM on.

When they believe the line to be unstable either from excessive CRC/FEC errors or line disconnects (like when you did at the start) then DLM will either enable interleaving or buff up the noise margin or both, there is also varying levels of interleaving so its more than just a on/off setting now.

I think I remember telling you this a week or so back.

I would ring up BTs tech support and explain the line stability was not the line but you playing around with the modem and ask them to reset the profile to its default, then after that plug it in to the router and leave it alone on 24/7.

Dash: CF noob 10-03-2012 01:42

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-03-2012.png


Packet loss seems to have gone.


Last Friday.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-03-2012.png

Kymmy 10-03-2012 08:25

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Firstly please ignore any lost packets, that was me moving cable around, the engineers install and then they were both off for a bit of decorating (hard to wallpaper round the cables) and finally for the 50Mb the superhub rebooting whilst I set up DHCP leases and messed about with the menus..

Comparison time though the first one isn't being used and just feeds into a router with the wifi turned off and nothing else attached.
Virgin Media Business 10Mb
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-03-2012.png



Now this one is being used with two PC's on 24/7 and 4 PC's on during the day/evening
Virgin Media 50Mb Superhub (router mode)
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-03-2012.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/58629730.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/03/46.png

I'm more than happy with those results and if you want to try to use those results to slag off the superhub then honestly..get a life :rolleyes:

Sirius 10-03-2012 08:33

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
My heavily used Super Hub in Modem Mode


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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/03/45.png

There will be a fair amount of short bust uploading today.


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