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Hugh 10-02-2025 12:38

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36191022)
:confused:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tner-leaves-uk

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Oakeshott, who is working from Dubai as international editor at Talk TV and as a columnist for the Daily Telegraph

Pierre 10-02-2025 20:03

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36191026)

Gotcha, thanks for that.

Yes, seems a bit daft to tweet that, if she is indeed currently in Dubai!

Having been to Dubai several times……..that definitely doesn’t happen!

Russ 11-02-2025 23:37

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Didn’t exactly take long for people to start seeing Reform for the grifters they really are:

https://x.com/job_west_/status/1889046415986544978?s=46

ianch99 12-02-2025 09:18

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
More Clacton voters realising they have been had by Reform and, specifically, the Grifter-in-chief Farage:

Who cares for the common worker?

Hugh 12-02-2025 09:21

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I’m sure they’ll voice their concerns directly to him at his Constituency Surgeries…

Paul 12-02-2025 17:17

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How have they been "Had by reform" ?
All those things asked about are current Law are they not ?

ianch99 12-02-2025 17:40

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36191180)
How have they been "Had by reform" ?
All those things asked about are current Law are they not ?

Labour urged to defend workers’ rights bill as poll shows huge public support

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A mega-poll of 21,000 people, including deep dives into Reform constituencies, showed the ban on zero-hours contracts and other protections for workers were backed by the vast majority of voters for Nigel Farage’s party.

The poll from the TUC suggested the employment rights bill, which includes day one sick pay and new rights to parental leave and flexible working, is the government’s most popular policy among both Reform and Green voters.

The TUC said Farage’s Reform was “defying its own voters and constituents” with its opposition to the legislation. Kemi Badenoch, the Conservative leader, has made the legislation’s burden on businesses one of her key attacks against Keir Starmer.

Farage has previously attacked some of the government’s flexible working plans, calling them “a complete load of cobblers” and saying “if you want to do well in life and succeed, believe me, you’ve got to work hard”.

The multilevel regression with poststratification (MRP) poll modelled support at a constituency level for two key policies from the legislation – banning zero hours contracts and giving all workers sick pay from day one – which showed every single constituency had majority support for the proposals.

In Farage’s Clacton seat, 70% support banning zero hours contracts and day one sick pay. There is similar – sometimes higher – support for both policies in Lee Anderson’s Ashfield seat, Richard Tice’s Boston and Skegness seat and Rupert Lowe’s Great Yarmouth seat.
There were clearly Farage supporters in the video and they assumed he would support the working people when it came to the proposed law that strengthened workers rights. Clearly not ...

Nigel Farage's Voters Are Shocked At His Opposition To Better Workers' Rights

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Voters in Nigel Farage’s constituency were left shocked by his apparent opposition to better workers’ rights.

The Reform UK leader and his party’s other four MPs voted against the government’s employment rights bill in the Commons.

1andrew1 12-02-2025 17:52

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36191137)
I’m sure they’ll voice their concerns directly to him at his Constituency Surgeries…

If they can afford the air fare to Mar-a-Lago then yes! :D

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36191192)
There were clearly Farage supporters in the video and they assumed he would support the working people when it came to the proposed law that strengthened workers rights. Clearly not ...

Populist voters not realising what they were voting for? Whatever next! ;)

Pierre 12-02-2025 18:12

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Reform are not going to win the next election….well I don’t think they are.

Could they partner with the Tories…….potentially.

But what they have done is get Labour spooked. So much so that Labour are desperately advertising that they are really tough on immigration.

If reform weren’t polling where they are now, do you really think you’d be seeing headlines like this ???

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tation-numbers

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...ion-crackdown/

https://news.sky.com/story/more-than...tions-13306102

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2695525.html

You can laugh them off, but just because of their current polling they’re effectively His Majesty’s Opposition- on this particular issue.

Itshim 12-02-2025 18:49

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36191180)
How have they been "Had by reform" ?
All those things asked about are current Law are they not ?

And not by labour :shocked:

Mr K 12-02-2025 20:30

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36191196)
Reform are not going to win the next election….well I don’t think they are.

Could they partner with the Tories…….potentially.

But what they have done is get Labour spooked. So much so that Labour are desperately advertising that they are really tough on immigration.

If reform weren’t polling where they are now, do you really think you’d be seeing headlines like this ???

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tation-numbers

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...ion-crackdown/

https://news.sky.com/story/more-than...tions-13306102

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2695525.html

You can laugh them off, but just because of their current polling they’re effectively His Majesty’s Opposition- on this particular issue.

It's the Tories that are spooked by Reform. Under our electoral system it could all but wipe them out. A pact could mean half of Tory MPs/ councillors/ voters ( the slightly sane ones) , looking elsewhere.

This countries issues aren't to do with Labour or the Conservatives, but an insane decision made by the electorate 9 years ago.

Look at yourselves peeps, rather than blaming the main politicals parties who all told you it was bonkers...

Pierre 12-02-2025 21:13

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36191208)
It's the Tories that are spooked by Reform. Under our electoral system it could all but wipe them out. A pact could mean half of Tory MPs/ councillors/ voters ( the slightly sane ones) , looking elsewhere.

This countries issues aren't to do with Labour or the Conservatives, but an insane decision made by the electorate 9 years ago.

Look at yourselves peeps, rather than blaming the main politicals parties who all told you it was bonkers...

It is well within the governments ( of any colour) powers to control immigration.

Leaving the ECHR would help further.

They don’t get a free pass because of Brexit.

1andrew1 12-02-2025 21:22

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36191213)
It is well within the governments ( of any colour) powers to control immigration.

Leaving the ECHR would help further.

They don’t get a free pass because of Brexit.

Immigration can be restricted further but there are trade-offs eg staffing for the NHS, more course cuts at universities.

UK will never leave the ECHR for reasons stated before.

And Brexit means unlawful immigrants get a free pass as we can't return them to the EU country they came from. The promise to 'Take back control of our borders' is the opposite to what has occurred.

Pierre 12-02-2025 23:01

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36191214)
Immigration can be restricted further but there are trade-offs eg staffing for the NHS, more course cuts at universities.

Tripe. All those men in their mid-twenties and early thirties rocking up on The beach. Are not doctors or nurses or porters.

They are at best deliveroo drivers, at worst jihadists….in between just a burden on the state.

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UK will never leave the ECHR for reasons stated before.
well we should to avoid this bollocks

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2695233.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpdx0yn6v7lo

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And Brexit means unlawful immigrants get a free pass as we can't return them to the EU country they came from.
Why? And please answer that as I would like to know

1andrew1 13-02-2025 09:07

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36191220)
Why? And please answer that as I would like to know

Have a read here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin...R)%20in%202024.


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