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Chris 25-03-2022 12:42

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117455)
Johnson was under pressure on the issue and bought time by saying the government would take action against the company.

The underlying issue here is that UK law is weaker here than some of its European peers which have prevented mass sackings and P&O has exploited this weakness. I'm not sure the finger can be pointed at anyone but the Government with regard to the UK's weaker legislation.

I’m sorry but P&O has well and truly shot that fox.

They broke the law. They knew they were breaking the law. And they’re openly bribing their (ex) employees to try to avoid the consequences. Trying to turn this into a Brexit/EU/Bumbling Boris story is just silly.

1andrew1 25-03-2022 13:13

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36117460)
I’m sorry but P&O has well and truly shot that fox.

They broke the law. They knew they were breaking the law. And they’re openly bribing their (ex) employees to try to avoid the consequences. Trying to turn this into a Brexit/EU/Bumbling Boris story is just silly.

Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant. :confused:

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.

Chris 25-03-2022 13:29

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117461)
Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant. :confused:

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.

I gave you a menu of your three favourite obsessions. You and I both know which one you’ve plumped for in this thread, because it’s the one you didn’t just object to. ;)

Julian 25-03-2022 13:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117461)
Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant. :confused:

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.

Can you provide evidence that our laws are weaker please?

OLD BOY 25-03-2022 14:00

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117461)
Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant. :confused:

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.

No, it’s not, Andrew. We could have had tougher rules in place and they would have broken them too. They are willing to pay heavy fines because it will be worth it in the long run.

It’s a bit like saying that because so many cars are exceeding the 30mph speed limit, we need a 20mph speed limit.

Carth 25-03-2022 14:33

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Lots of firms break environmental rules . . because it's cheaper to pay the fines than fix the issue.

1andrew1 25-03-2022 16:52

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117464)
No, it’s not, Andrew. We could have had tougher rules in place and they would have broken them too. They are willing to pay heavy fines because it will be worth it in the long run.

It’s a bit like saying that because so many cars are exceeding the 30mph speed limit, we need a 20mph speed limit.

What heavy fines are you referring to? They're paying enhanced redundancy to their ex-workforce but I'm not aware of any fines they've incurred.

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36117463)
Can you provide evidence that our laws are weaker please?

Please see this article
https://www.thelocal.fr/20220318/why...rench-workers/

Julian 25-03-2022 18:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117476)
What heavy fines are you referring to? They're paying enhanced redundancy to their ex-workforce but I'm not aware of any fines they've incurred.

---------- Post added at 15:52 ---------- Previous post was at 15:45 ----------


Please see this article
https://www.thelocal.fr/20220318/why...rench-workers/

Thanks but needs a subscription

1andrew1 25-03-2022 18:58

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36117485)
Thanks but needs a subscription

That's strange, I could access it ok.

Mad Max 25-03-2022 19:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117490)
That's strange, I could access it ok.

Yup, same here.

Paul 25-03-2022 20:48

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36117485)
Thanks but needs a subscription

I dont think it does, I could access it ok (after dealing with the ever annoying cookies pop-up).

Carth 25-03-2022 21:14

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36117498)
I dont think it does, I could access it ok (after dealing with the ever annoying cookies pop-up).

Yeah same, I hate those damn things :(

papa smurf 26-03-2022 17:51

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A P&O Ferries ship is being held in Northern Ireland because it is "unfit to sail", nine days after the company sacked 800 workers without notice. The European Causeway had been held in Larne over "failures on crew familiarisation, vessel documentation and crew training", the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...20(MCA)%20said.

Carth 26-03-2022 18:54

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36117555)
A P&O Ferries ship is being held in Northern Ireland because it is "unfit to sail", nine days after the company sacked 800 workers without notice. The European Causeway had been held in Larne over "failures on crew familiarisation, vessel documentation and crew training", the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...20(MCA)%20said.

Oh dear. That's bound to increase customer confidence eh :D

papa smurf 26-03-2022 19:18

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36117557)
Oh dear. That's bound to increase customer confidence eh :D

The one thing we learned from the EU -bureaucracy:)


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