Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Does the national curriculum for history really need changing?

Are there many calls from teachers, school governors or education chiefs (of whatever race/colour/creed/religion) to alter it?

To be honest I haven't seen any, just Deeney (the excellent role model) trying to emulate Rashford.

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

‘If" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there…

Wahhabism is 5% of Islam, and Muslims are 7% of the U.K. population - do the Maths…

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Only if we believe that we want everyone to "integrate"…

To fully integrate, you have to believe that you are a part of something - if your part in history is ignored/overlooked, how can you be a a part of it?

We Anglo-Saxons don’t have to worry about "representation", because that’s the default view…

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

It's always being changed - the question is when we change it what do we include that reflects those in our current society.

There is quite a bit of context and recent history of the history curriculum here - https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...iculum-england

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

For only 7% of the UK population, they've certainly got most of the media in a tail spin about what they can print :p:

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Even if that projection holds, 17.2% does not an electoral majority make, especially as 'Muslim' does not predict voting intentions, just 'Christian' doesn't.

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Sorry Seph, that really is the point. The point of this thread is that we do not want to talk honestly about the past and it is this past that is the direct cause of problem you are raising. If we hadn't invaded these lands, they wouldn't be here in the numbers you are complaining about. Mea culpa ..

I do agree, BTW, about the apostacy issue: a sinister belief found in the Wahhabi variant of Islam, mercifully not a mainstream movement here in the UK.

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

So you're against children learning their parents religion.

Better stop all the Sunday Schools and church affiliated schools then.

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And we're going around in circles now

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

If the bad history isn't available how do so many know about it? of course because all the information is out there and not hard to find. My history curriculum in 1984 was China 1923 to 1949 and the British canal network I learnt most of my history because I read books including those with the bad bits such as Britain inventing concentration camps and the R.A.F using Indian villages to practise aerial bombing and a lot more besides.

If the history of other ethnic group's is to be taught then all of it must be taught such as the black and middle eastern people starting the slave trade, widow burning in India and the many massacres and genocides those groups carried out before they were colonised. That's not what modern liberals want they want to continue the evil imperialist white people narrative and their oppression and murder at the hands of said evil white people. How do we know that's the direction it will take simple because that's the direction it's been for the last couple of years.

Tearing down society while replacing it with nothing practical and capable of maintaining a society just woke homogeneous rubbish.

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Thats one hell of a leap, would you please explain how you manage to draw that conclusion ?

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

Sadly if one uses the terms that fit one's own world view you can miss some very relevant links on Google.
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It's available if you want to find it..it's wanting to find it that's the relevant part.

Re: Calls to make black, asian and minority ethnic history compulsory
 

The rest of the post and the preceding argument is that the country will end up with Muslim majority.

The statement around take-up of faith in Muslim families and the linked website is to back up that claim.

However, unless you're singling out a specific religion for different treatment or restrictions, you either support parents teaching their religion to their children or you don't support it.

As the argument is that children learning Islam from their parents is a problem for the UK, then Sephiroth is arguing against all religious teaching of children.

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I am also aware and have unfortunately contributed to dragging this thread into yet another discussion specifically about Islam, which is unfortunate.

Islam is only a part of Black, Asian and minority history and the history of the UK, and any issues with the Muslim faith shouldn't override the wider points that the original letter raised to the Education Secretary.

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