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Hugh 08-06-2020 09:37
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36038817)
Again, I’ve been completely consistent.

They can campaign, I wholeheartedly support them to campaign for issues, such as young black males killing young black males, predominantly in London.

But that is not what BLM are about, BLM is about state killing Blacks or the state failing to prosecute and convict Those that kill blacks. Which is a US issue not a U.K. issue.
This is what BLM U.K. say they are about.
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Who we are.

Black Lives Matter UK (BLMUK) is a coalition of black activists and organisers across the UK. We’ve been organising since 2016 for justice in our communities.
We’re guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy and the state structures that disproportionately harm black people in Britain and around the world. We build deep relationships across the diaspora and strategise to challenge the rise of the authoritarian right-wing across the world, from Brazil to Britain.

We’re developing new and exciting ways of organising that centre transparency, accountability, safety and healing for our organisers and our communities. BLMUK organises in the black radical tradition, using political education, direct action and political leadership toward black liberation.

Our commitment to all black lives means that we lift up the experiences of the most marginalised in our communities, including but not limited to working class queer, trans, undocumented, disabled, Muslim, sex workers, women/non-binary, HIV+ people.

papa smurf 08-06-2020 09:41
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Hmm COPS ON THE RUN Black Lives Matter protest in London marred by violence as yobs hurl fireworks, chase cops and leave one soaked in blood
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/118035...rotest-london/

BenMcr 08-06-2020 10:09
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36038825)
Hmm COPS ON THE RUN Black Lives Matter protest in London marred by violence as yobs hurl fireworks, chase cops and leave one soaked in blood
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/118035...rotest-london/
Incidents like that are not unique to these protests, nor as far as I'm aware are they more likely at these protests.

papa smurf 08-06-2020 10:19
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36038828)
Incidents like that are not unique to these protests, nor as far as I'm aware are they more likely at these protests.
I would say it's guaranteed to turn violent.

BenMcr 08-06-2020 10:28
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36038829)
I would say it's guaranteed to turn violent.
On what basis?

papa smurf 08-06-2020 10:43
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36038831)
On what basis?
The bad feeling and sense of entitlement that the protesters bring to the protest,pluss there is always an eliment who bring bricks bottles and fireworks/flares with them.

Sephiroth 08-06-2020 10:48
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36038831)
On what basis?
The bleedin' obvious, perhaps?

Mr K 08-06-2020 10:50
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36038834)
The bad feeling and sense of entitlement that the protesters bring to the protest,pluss there is always an eliment who bring bricks bottles and fireworks/flares with them.
The day we can't protest peacefully, as the vast majority do, is the day we can say goodbye to the UK.

denphone 08-06-2020 10:52
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36038836)
The day we can't protest peacefully, as the vast majority do, is the day we can say goodbye to the UK.
And that is the key words.

But also where is the social distancing as that was non existent.:(

Pierre 08-06-2020 11:00
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36038824)
This is what BLM U.K. say they are about.
So basically they just hate White, straight, Men - that's me out then.

This is a just a group that has appropriated the title BLM from the american movement.

And I continue to be consistent in my appraisal of them.

They should call themselves British Blacks hate British White straight men - that fits better with their mission statement and they are nothing to do with the the american movement.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36038837)
And that is the key words.

But also where is the social distancing as that was non existent.:(
oh the bastion of the middle ground David Lammy, has already used the Cummings excuse this morning for that one.

and that this is a much too an important higher cause , than to worry about a piffling thing such as Social Distancing - perfectly fine.

denphone 08-06-2020 11:06
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36038839)
oh the bastion of the middle ground David Lammy, has already used the Cummings excuse this morning for that one.

and that this is a much too an important higher cause , than to worry about a piffling thing such as Social Distancing - perfectly fine.
There were no excuses for Cummings and likewise that same sentiment applies to David Lammy this morning either.

jfman 08-06-2020 11:08
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
It doesn't say they hate anyone - it says they want to lift up marginalised groups it doesn't say they want to kick you down.

White brings us to the crux of English nationalism - it sees these concepts as a threat. Any group, proud of who they are, or their own identity and who aspires to equality is seen as a threat.

denphone 08-06-2020 11:09
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36038839)
and that this is a much too an important higher cause , than to worry about a piffling thing such as Social Distancing - perfectly fine.
Sadly some in this country just don't get that.

papa smurf 08-06-2020 11:10
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36038839)
So basically they just hate White, straight, Men - that's me out then.

This is a just a group that has appropriated the title BLM from the american movement.

And I continue to be consistent in my appraisal of them.

They should call themselves British Blacks hate British White straight men - that fits better with their mission statement and they are nothing to do with the the american movement.

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oh the bastion of the middle ground David Lammy, has already used the Cummings excuse this morning for that one.

and that this is a much too an important higher cause , than to worry about a piffling thing such as Social Distancing - perfectly fine.
Racists then. who'd of thunk that.

jfman 08-06-2020 11:10
Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36038847)
Racists then. who'd of thunk that.
Pierre said that, they didn't. It's telling that both of you see their language as a threat.


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