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SnoopZ 12-12-2020 12:32

Re: Smart meters
 
Bulb have just started sending me emails saying, we are installing in your area book now. Etc

nashville 12-12-2020 17:55

Re: Smart meters
 
I never took one when I was offered, I just do not trust them, a few people I know have just not plugged them in ,so what is the point, I read my own meter every month,

Hugh 12-12-2020 18:30

Re: Smart meters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 36062063)
I never took one when I was offered, I just do not trust them, a few people I know have just not plugged them in ,so what is the point, I read my own meter every month,

They can't just be plugged in, they have to be fitted by your energy supplier.

heero_yuy 12-12-2020 18:33

Re: Smart meters
 
My electricity one has never worked properly and I still get estimated bills. The gas people want me to have one. No way Jose.

Hugh 12-12-2020 19:25

Re: Smart meters
 
I’ve been lucky - both mine work fine, and send twice daily readings to the supplier.

Taf 13-12-2020 12:11

Re: Smart meters
 
The present non-smart meters read kilowatt hours (kWh).

Due to some complicated effects by how you use the electricity in your home, this means power companies lose power, and therefore money.

They would much rather we all change to kilovolt amperes (kVa) and put that extra cost onto consumers.

https://scottiestech.info/2018/02/27...tor%20of%201.0.

heero_yuy 13-12-2020 12:41

Re: Smart meters
 
Commercial users have to pay an extra charge if their PF* (Power Factor) is less than 1. Before smart meters the installation included a non-user resettable PF meter that recorded the lowest value.

Partly because the losses in the electricity transmission system depend on KVA not KWatts

Smart meters show this KVA total value as "Imported reactive power" if you can work out which buttons to press on the main meter to get this display. Domestic users are currently billed for "Imported active power"

On the domestic front the low PF items are fridges and freezers due to the induction motor that runs the compressor. According to my own energy monitor they can be as low as 0.6

If you have solar cells then the power you send to the grid is shown as "Exported active power"

* PF = Real power (KWatts) / Apparent power (KVA)

Taf 13-12-2020 18:49

Re: Smart meters
 
PF of some LED lighting has been measured low as 0.35.

Not so attractive if they started charging for kVa.

A very techie read if you can't sleep. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Power_factor

Dude111 18-12-2020 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf
The present non-smart meters read kilowatt hours (kWh).

Yes and are MUCH BETTER.. The power companies have just gotton greedy and want every penny!! (They dont care if its not the best for us)


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