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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35932941)

As federal government anxiously awaits Congress's decision on the spending bill, a possible divergence has arisen between Trump and Kelly on the Mexican wall

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/w...wall-02w37qw9m

Where is the divergence? Regarding the wall Trump himself has said,

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Trump met with several lawmakers for a bipartisan meeting on immigration reform on Tuesday, where he said natural barriers, like mountains, already on the border, could make a wall there unnecessary.

"We don't need a wall where you have rivers and mountains and everything else protecting it," the President said. "But we do need a wall for a fairly good portion."

http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/09/po...all/index.html

The long awaited fake news awards.

https://gop.com/the-highly-anticipat...e-news-awards/

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35932948)

Where is the divergence? Regarding the wall Trump himself has said,

http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/09/po...all/index.html

The long awaited fake news awards.

https://gop.com/the-highly-anticipat...e-news-awards/

There should be another award for Trumps most outrageous lie.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35932954)

There should be another award for Trumps most outrageous lie.

Which is???

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35932956)

Which is???

Here are some

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/m...tml/?a=viewall

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35932959)

Here are some

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/m...tml/?a=viewall

Which doesn't answer the question.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35932960)

Which doesn't answer the question.

In my opinion the lie regarding the Embassy, blaming Obama for a bad deal.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35932961)

In my opinion the lie regarding the Embassy, blaming Obama for a bad deal.

If that's the most outrageous then he has nothing to fear.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35932963)

If that's the most outrageous then he has nothing to fear.

There are many others, that are probably a lot worse, just can’t be bothered to look. Out of interest, do you accept he tells lies?

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

Undoubtedly, as does any other politician. It's not exclusive to Trump.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35932966)

Undoubtedly, as does any other politician. It's not exclusive to Trump.

You may find this of interest (or you may just call it "fake news").

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...etType=opinion

http://www.cableforum.uk/board/attac...9&d=1516274695

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After we published a list of President Trump’s lies this summer, we heard a common response from his supporters. They said, in effect: Yes, but if you made a similar list for previous presidents, it would be just as bad.

We’ve set out to make that list. Here, you will find our attempt at a comprehensive catalog of the falsehoods that Barack Obama told while he was president. (We also discuss George W. Bush below, although the lack of real-time fact-checking during his presidency made a comprehensive list impossible.)

We applied the same conservative standard to Obama and Trump, counting only demonstrably and substantially false statements. The result: Trump is unlike any other modern president. He seems virtually indifferent to reality, often saying whatever helps him make the case he’s trying to make.

In his first 10 months in office, he has told 103 separate untruths, many of them repeatedly. Obama told 18 over his entire eight-year tenure. That’s an average of about two a year for Obama and about 124 a year for Trump...

...We have used the word “lies” again here, as we did in our original piece. If anything, though, the word is unfair to Obama and Bush. When they became aware that they had been saying something untrue, they stopped doing it. Obama didn’t continue to claim that all Americans would be able to keep their existing health insurance under Obamacare, for example, and Bush changed the way he spoke about Iraq’s weapons capability.

Trump is different. When he is caught lying, he will often try to discredit people telling the truth, be they judges, scientists, F.B.I. or C.I.A. officials, journalists or members of Congress. Trump is trying to make truth irrelevant. It is extremely damaging to democracy, and it’s not an accident. It’s core to his political strategy.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

Well it's from NYT, the ******* liberal journo's. They loved Obama, heavens knows why, the shit President that he was.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35932978)

Well it's from NYT, the ******* liberal journo's. They loved Obama, heavens knows why, the shit President that he was.

They complied a list too: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...umps-lies.html

The claim Trump made against what happened. I.E

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JAN. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)”
(The report never mentioned voter fraud.)
JAN. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

Please, I have no desire to read anything associated with their website. They disgust me with that they did with the Manchester Arena Bomb photos, showing dead bodies and bomb components days after the event and sharing intelligence with whomever in the intelligence community shared it, was a massive offensive display of journalism I have ever seen. Total *******s @ New York Times.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35932985)

ok here ya go: http://www.politifact.com/personalit...yruling/false/

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

I am not interested, I don't care about the lies. Hillary lied, Bill Clinton lied, Obama lied, whether it's 10 lies or 100. They all do it as it has been said. Do we have any websites dedicated to other world leaders who have lied?

At the end of the day, it doesn't detract the fact that most news stories are full of negative hysteria nonsense as highlighted in the awards that Trump gave and they are well deserved.