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Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

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Originally Posted by multiskilled (Post 35933646)

The watershed was also in place when you were a teenager. As we don't know what time the programme was actually transmitted other than it was pre watershed, it could have been viewed by children younger than their teens.

Also the terms objected to are not in common use these these days is there any point in adding them to the playground lexicon.

I think, from memory, such language was used in the early evening as well.

Frankly, it's pathetic. I remember in one of the Star Trek series, the crew of the starship were called 'pinkskins' by these white aliens. I was so offended. Not!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35933923)

Frankly, it's pathetic. I remember in one of the Star Trek series, the crew of the starship were called 'pinkskins' by these white aliens. I was so offended. Not!

Those racist Andorians :erm:

(They were Blue btw, not White)

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

Times change - we don't find it acceptable to ban Irish and dogs from boarding houses any more, or put homosexuals in prison or mental hospital, make women endure marital rape, or make women in offices make the tea/coffee as an expected part of their roles; society evolves.

Regarding the word that is at the basis of this thread, I think Charles M. Blow put it very well, about how it's the context and the person using a word (not just that one) that's important.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/op...etType=opinion

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MY father’s name is William Paul Coates. I, like my six brothers and sisters, have always addressed him as Dad. Strangers often call him Mr. Coates. His friends call him Paul. If a stranger or one of my father’s friends called him Dad, my father might have a conversation. When I was a child, relatives of my paternal grandmother would call my father Billy. Were I to ever call my father Billy, we would probably have a different conversation.

I have never called my father Billy. I understand, like most people, that words take on meaning within a context. It might be true that you refer to your spouse as Baby. But were I to take this as license to do the same, you would most likely protest. Right names depend on right relationships, a fact so basic to human speech that without it, human language might well collapse...

...A few summers ago one of my best friends invited me up to what he affectionately called his “white-trash cabin” in the Adirondacks. This was not how I described the outing to my family. Two of my Jewish acquaintances once joked that I’d “make a good Jew.” My retort was not, “Yeah, I certainly am good with money.” Gay men sometimes laughingly refer to one another as “******s.” My wife and her friends sometimes, when having a good time, will refer to one another with the word “bitch.” I am certain that should I decide to join in, I would invite the same hard conversation that would greet me, should I ever call my father Billy.

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35933928)

Those racist Andorians :erm:

(They were Blue btw, not White)

So they were, sorry! :dunce:

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35933817)

As I child I seldom heard the word, children were more likely to call each other white honkey or black honkey after hearing it on Love Thy Neighbour.

It must have been particularly hard for your brother at this time when it was deemed socially acceptable to make insulting remarks.

Someone said to me earlier today that they thought that the term 'honkey' was a fictitious insult created especially for Love Thy Neighbour and used instead of the usual names so as not to cause offence. Trouble was was that black & white people started using it as a new term to insult each other!

Can anyone here remember if this is actually correct or not?

Edit: Someone who works in the industry said yesterday that Talking Pictures hope to start subtitling their programmes from March. I wonder if this is because they think that they might as well do this for those with hearing difficulties if they have to check all dialogue anyway to ensure no more words slip through??

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35934236)

The term was used in the !973 Bond film "Live and let die"

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Take that white honkey out the back and waste him

Love thy neighbour debuted in 1976.

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

In the 1958 movie The Defiant Ones, Tony Curtis' character John "Joker" Jackson refers to himself as "a honky".

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

So it seems that what I was told was incorrect.

My own research has come up with a few explanations as to where it originated from, but all seem to agree that it's a derogatory term used by black people against white people. There are also different spellings of the term.

I find this odd as I could have sworn that the two neighbours in Love Thy Neighbour called each other black and white honkey :confused:

The two most common ones are that black people wanted something to use in response to being called a nigger and that the insult was used towards white men who went into black areas looking for prostitutes. They would honk their horns to summon a black prostitute that caught their eye, so any passing black men would call them "honkeys".

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honky

There are many theories about the origin.

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

This issue is now starting to piss me off.
Talking Pictures is about old Films. And yes in films from before the 60's quite often had many comments that would be offensive today.

For Christ sake can't these people get a life.

I am sending an email today stating that l support them in what ever film they show.

If they edit any part of a film from before the 60's amd 70's.It wont be worth having the channel.

IF, people don't like what they hear or see on Tv / Film. Turn over the channel. And get a life

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl

I get preserving old movies but I also understand some things may be too bad to show now.

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It's PC gone mad, we have ppl in this country that are so easily offended that it's scary!

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35936395)

It's PC gone mad, we have ppl in this country that are so easily offended that it's scary!

They get offended for other people that's the biggest problem.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35936394)

I get preserving old movies but I also understand some things may be too bad to show now.

This, quite frankly, is nonsense - no one is being forced to watch these old movies.

If the snowflakes cant hack it, they can just go watch the latest Big Brother, or whatever other nonsense they seem to think is good.

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35936405)

I agree. I would also say that I am amazed that the younger generation tend to be attracted to such programmes, the content of which really is offensive!

Such strange standards we have these days!