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pip08456 20-11-2016 18:33
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35870714)
I think between him and Boris our foreign affairs are sorted
:tu:

mrmistoffelees 20-11-2016 18:39
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35870714)
I think between him and Boris our foreign affairs are sorted

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martyh 20-11-2016 18:47
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35870725)
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Johnson was forced to apologize to the people of Papua New Guinea after writing in 2006 in the Telegraph: “For 10 years we in the Tory party have become used to Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing and so it is with a happy amazement that we watch as the madness engulfs the Labour party.”
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U.S. President Barack Obama’s intervention in the Brexit debate did not go down well with the Brexiteers, including Johnson who in April described Obama as a “part-Kenyan” with an “ancestral dislike” of Britain.
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In 2002, Johnson used a derogatory word for black children when writing about a visit to Africa by then prime minister Tony Blair. “What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies; and one can imagine that Blair, twice victor abroad but enmired at home, is similarly seduced by foreign politeness.

“They say he is shortly off to the Congo. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.”
what do think :D

pip08456 20-11-2016 18:49
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I think Boris is an ass.

Pierre 20-11-2016 19:52
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35870707)
Fixed that for you ;)
You didn't fix it though.........

So why bother?

mrmistoffelees 20-11-2016 20:00
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35870751)
You didn't fix it though.........

So why bother?
But I did & because I can ;)

Pierre 20-11-2016 20:03
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35870711)
Some samples

1993
To a British tourist in Hungary in he quipped: "You can't have been here that long — you haven't got a pot belly."
To survivors of the Lockerbie bombing he told them: "People usually say that after a fire it is water damage that is the worst. We are still drying out Windsor Castle."
1994
"Aren't most of you descended from pirates?", he asked an islander in the Cayman Islands.
To a Caribbean rabbit breeder in Anguilla, he said: "Don't feed your rabbits pawpaw fruit — it acts as a contraceptive. Then again, it might not work on rabbits."
1995
He asked a Scottish driving instructor in Oban: "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?"
1996
Following the Dunblane massacre, he questioned the need for a firearms ban: "If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?"
1998
The Duke asked a British student who had been trekking in Papua New Guinea: "You managed not to get eaten then?"




mmmm exactly how we 'want to hear it'
How I want to hear it, most of it is bloody hilarious.

and for the Dunblane, well it's a valid point, used by the NRA in the USA since ever. Not one I share but valid nevertheless

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35870758)
But I did & because I can ;)
No you didn't, and you can't - just because you edited a piece of text means nothing.

mrmistoffelees 20-11-2016 20:07
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35870759)
How I want to hear it, most of it is bloody hilarious.

and for the Dunblane, well it's a valid point, used by the NRA in the USA since ever. Not one I share but valid nevertheless

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No you didn't, and you can't - just because you edited a piece of text means nothing.

Sorry, I'm wrong, he's absolutely hysterical.

Next week the return of 'Mind Your Language'

Pierre 20-11-2016 20:21
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35870762)
Sorry, I'm wrong, he's absolutely hysterical.

Next week the return of 'Mind Your Language'
Brilliant, and hopefully "it ain't half hot mum' too

TheDaddy 20-11-2016 21:22
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35870660)
The Government have agreed to pay for the upkeep of a building the Government own. Lizzie doesn't own it.
She lives in it, doesn't pay rent and tells others if they can stay there or not, sounds like she owns it to me!!

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I won't have anyone have a go at Phil, he's a legend.

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Also The money is going to come from the revenues of Crown Estate, not from taxes.
Crown estates which are going to pay less tax for quiet a while, so from taxes in a round about way

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35870714)
I think between him and Boris our foreign affairs are sorted
Except ones an amusing old man and the other is a nob with a well honed act that people seem happy to be taken in by for some reason.

pip08456 20-11-2016 21:37
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Crown Estates don't pay taxes as such as all the income comes directly to HMG, 15% of the income is then paid to the Monarch as that was the deal when the estates were handed over to the Government.

Then again Crown Estates could employ special Tax accountants to look at the income to see how they could screw they tax system and perhaps put all the income via a shell company in the Camen Islands so the Government would not be liable for any taxes due to the Customs and Excise arm of the Government.

Chris 20-11-2016 21:50
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35870789)
She lives in it, doesn't pay rent and tells others if they can stay there or not, sounds like she owns it to me!!

Crown estates which are going to pay less tax for quiet a while, so from taxes in a round about way

Except ones an amusing old man and the other is a nob with a well honed act that people seem happy to be taken in by for some reason.
It sounds like you don't really understand how the Crown Estate works.

Buckingham Palace does not belong to Elizabeth Windsor. It belongs to the Crown and is part of the Crown Estate. The Crown Estate owns land and buildings all over the UK and generates income from them. The income net of running costs is paid to the treasury. The treasury gives 15% of that income to the Queen and she uses that to pay for the Royal Family's running costs. This includes the costs of running the houses they live in. She doesn't own them, nor does she rent them. They are a perk of the job, but a perk she is responsible to maintain day-to-day. Exceptional costs, however, are not expected to be covered out of the usual allowance from the estate. Repairs to Windsor Castle after the fire in 1992 were paid for by donations, by opening Buckingham Palace to the public and by £2 million of the Queen's private income. It's a catastrophe like that that is part of the reason it's imperative that we get this work done rather than using it as an excuse for the usual republican suspects to have a whinge.

To reiterate: the Crown Estate does not pay tax on its profits. *All* its profits are paid to the exchequer, and 85% of its profits remain with the exchequer, to be allocated and spent in the same way as all other government income.

TheDaddy 20-11-2016 22:43
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35870792)
Crown Estates don't pay taxes as such as all the income comes directly to HMG, 15% of the income is then paid to the Monarch as that was the deal when the estates were handed over to the Government.

Then again Crown Estates could employ special Tax accountants to look at the income to see how they could screw they tax system and perhaps put all the income via a shell company in the Camen Islands so the Government would not be liable for any taxes due to the Customs and Excise arm of the Government.
Yes they could do that but then we could lop her head of like one of her unfortunate predecessors, so the 85% is staying with the people then, it's not being cut at all?

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35870793)
It sounds like you don't really understand how the Crown Estate works.

Buckingham Palace does not belong to Elizabeth Windsor. It belongs to the Crown and is part of the Crown Estate. The Crown Estate owns land and buildings all over the UK and generates income from them. The income net of running costs is paid to the treasury. The treasury gives 15% of that income to the Queen and she uses that to pay for the Royal Family's running costs. This includes the costs of running the houses they live in. She doesn't own them, nor does she rent them. They are a perk of the job, but a perk she is responsible to maintain day-to-day. Exceptional costs, however, are not expected to be covered out of the usual allowance from the estate. Repairs to Windsor Castle after the fire in 1992 were paid for by donations, by opening Buckingham Palace to the public and by £2 million of the Queen's private income. It's a catastrophe like that that is part of the reason it's imperative that we get this work done rather than using it as an excuse for the usual republican suspects to have a whinge.

To reiterate: the Crown Estate does not pay tax on its profits. *All* its profits are paid to the exchequer, and 85% of its profits remain with the exchequer, to be allocated and spent in the same way as all other government income.
Sounds like you don't get jokes, my mistake I should've stuck a smiley face at the end instead of two exclamation marks and to reiterate the 85% is remaining with the exchequer then, it's not being cut at all

pip08456 20-11-2016 22:51
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35870801)

85% is remaining with the exchequer then, it's not being cut at all
How can the agreed income be cut? The Govenment get 100% then hand over 15% as per the agreement.

Then problem people percieve is that the income from the Crown Estates has risen far above inflation and the Government is making millions per year from it.

By the same token the Monarch's 15% is worth more as well. Republicans only look at the headline figure paid, not where it comes from.

No "Taxpayers" money is paid to the Monarch.

TheDaddy 20-11-2016 23:05
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35870804)
How can the agreed income be cut? The Govenment get 100% then hand over 15% as per the agreement.

Then problem people percieve is that the income from the Crown Estates has risen far above inflation and the Government is making millions per year from it.

By the same token the Monarch's 15% is worth more as well. Republicans only look at the headline figure paid, not where it comes from.

No "Taxpayers" money is paid to the Monarch.
Are the government not handing over 25% from now on


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