Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 35819911)

1-For me and many others suffering cripplingly bad connections due to overselling, poor network planning and under capacity the broadband is an unreliable second rate product. Their headline speeds are now so far beyond what most users actually need it doesn't matter if Sky or BT are slower, they are fast enough. So the BB advantage is being eroded anyway

2- The interface on the Sky+ was always better, more intuitive and faster than TiVO

3 - Maybe it's just me but Sky Go seems way better than TV Anywhere

4 - VM have no real version of sky store with Free DVD's.

Sorry but it needs to improve, and fast.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35815620)

I think the tuners are used as follows

4 for recording
1 for live TV viewing on main box
2 for 2 Sky Q Mini boxes
2 for 2 tablets
With the rest used for future expansion

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35819914)

Seems to me that almost no one really needs that many tuners, its just a gimmick.

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35819914)

I'm curious, when was the last time you (or anyone) needed to record four programmes all at the same time (as well as watching a fifth).

How many households have five people that all need to watch different programmes at the same time (spread across tablets & mini boxes).

Seems to me that almost no one really needs that many tuners, its just a gimmick.

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35819914)

I'm curious, when was the last time you (or anyone) needed to record four programmes all at the same time (as well as watching a fifth).

How many households have five people that all need to watch different programmes at the same time (spread across tablets & mini boxes).

Seems to me that almost no one really needs that many tuners, its just a gimmick.

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35819914)

I'm curious, when was the last time you (or anyone) needed to record four programmes all at the same time (as well as watching a fifth).

How many households have five people that all need to watch different programmes at the same time (spread across tablets & mini boxes).

Seems to me that almost no one really needs that many tuners, its just a gimmick.

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 35819911)

1-For me and many others suffering cripplingly bad connections due to overselling, poor network planning and under capacity the broadband is an unreliable second rate product. Their headline speeds are now so far beyond what most users actually need it doesn't matter if Sky or BT are slower, they are fast enough. So the BB advantage is being eroded anyway

Originally Posted by r94yan (Post 35820383)

Also suggestions often will use 2 of the tuners without you realising.

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35820607)

IMO the supposed upcoming war of the set top boxes between Sky's Q and Virgin Media's upgraded TiVo will not be who has the superior box (my guess is they will be roughly equal in features) but who has the better content to watch via them. Sadly, no prizes for guessing who that will be.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35820640)

Yes, we are missing out big time on all that Sky Atlantic programming. That is Virgin Media's serious content deficiency, and they have no alternatives available to balance that with what Sky provide.

If anyone doubts how much we have missed, they only need to subscribe to the Now TV Entertainment Pass. Incredible.

In my opinion, VM need to address this as a matter of some urgency if they don't want to haemmorage TV subscribers.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35820644)

There isn't a lot they can do if Sky wish to keep the channel as an exclusive.