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It's sadly ironic that we seem hell bent on spending vast sums of money keeping people alive for as long as possible even when they clearly want to die, yet at the same time we're prepared to make cuts to the benefits and services many of them desperately need while they are alive... :spin:

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I like the second house being unelected (and unpaid) so are able to reform laws without worrying about getting re-elected. Being unelected means that they can't create law. Many times the Lords have blocked or slowed bad law being made in response to some event that is popular but is not quite what is needed.

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It always seems that this terrible government wants to cut everything in there sights.
They wont cut there expenses or the wages will they.

They do say BIG BEN needs refurbishment, as it is getting old. Wonder where that money is coming from ?

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A large jar full of loose change?

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I've got one of them. I make a point of only putting £1, 50p and 20p coins in.
There's £3.24 in there so far.

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Don't forget MP wage rises are set by an independent body and they awarded pay rises even when requested not to. That's not to say some in power are only there for the power and pay and some do claim expenses more than perhaps they should. (And expenses can be interesting - what would you do if you could claim on a frivolous extra but not on a real expense?)

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ironically this saving osborne is hell bent on making is the same as the foreign aid increase nobody wants.

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If we were using foreign aid to tackle the migration crisis it'd be money well spent.

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Ask, and ye shall receive... ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34167271

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ESA (work-related activity group) is already under threat. Osbourne/IDS wants that group scrapped and previous, and future, qualifiers moved to Jobseekers Allowance with a severe cut in income. :td:

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Fresh blow for George Osborne over planned tax credit cuts changes.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...t-cuts-reforms

John Major blasts 'shocking' inequality levels in Britain.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...els-in-britain

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Please, independent, it'll be the usual gang of failed politicians and party cronies, who just so happen to sit on each other renumeration committees. No opportunity for back scratching or cronyism there.

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A correction to post 92.
Members of the House of Lords are entitled to claim 300 pounds (plus expenses) every day they turn up. This is far more than people on minimum wage earn in a week.

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... and regardless of whether they actually do anything productive IIRC.

Nice 'work' if you can get it eh?

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http://news.sky.com/story/1585892/br...oney-to-africa

How about this for a kick in the teeth for us. This government is quite happy to GIVE OUR TAX MONEY to overseas countries, yet quite prepared to cut everything going in this country.

In two weeks time this Government will line our MORE cuts that various dept. have to cut. Including the police and Tax credits etc etc.

Yet they are doing this. And yes, members will say that l am moaning and whinging about Cameron and Co.

THIS country, should be looked after FIRST, before any consideration is given to overseas countries. Almost of the money given to overseas countries probably ends up on the black market. So what does its achieve - NOTHING