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Damien 27-12-2014 06:18
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35748860)
Yes that's about the size of it, if he'd been violent and she had been forced to relive her experience through memory I'd be a lot more inclined to join the lynch mob.
This is a bit weird. As mentioned it is an act of violence and she'll still have live with the knowledge it happened and subsequent court case and media attention.

Pierre 27-12-2014 07:58
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35748860)
Yes that's about the size of it, if he'd been violent and she had been forced to relive her experience through memory I'd be a lot more inclined to join the lynch mob.
That's potentially worse than being conscious when the act happened, as you'd never know what actually happened and all you could do is imagine what occurred which may be worse.

Also just because a person may unconscious doesn't mean the rape wasn't violent - how do you square that up.

You don't have to punch someone for the rape to be violent. he still forced himself into somewhere that he shouldn't have been. That can cause injury.

Very twisted logic.

So to answer the original question, Does that mean if you got very drunk, and were anally
raped, you couldn't remember what happened but the rape had torn your anal tissue.

You'd be more forgiving of the rapist would you?

Hugh 27-12-2014 09:02
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35748891)
This is a bit weird. As mentioned it is an act of violence and she'll still have live with the knowledge it happened and subsequent court case and media attention.
She has had to move three times and get a new identity due to death threats.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...-calls-8000213

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Her distraught father fears that the campaign will destroy his daughter as she feels “hunted” and that “sooner or later she will break”.

The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has been forced to leave her family in North Wales and change her name three times in a bid to get on with her life and to escape the death threats she has received since Evans was convicted two years ago.

Gary L 27-12-2014 09:18
Re: What a possibility - Chad Evans
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35747765)
The guy was found guilty of a nasty crime against a woman. Should he be allowed to try and get back into football - l believe he should. He has done his time,

My second point is this - we have nasty Paedophiles, who commit the crimes again children, get six months. Are out on the streets, and no bats an eyelid about - and are allowed to go back to work as if nothing has happened.

What do other members think - nothing nasty about me for my opinion
Depends on what you think about a pedo serving his time and going back into football.

TheDaddy 27-12-2014 15:26
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35748894)
That's potentially worse than being conscious when the act happened, as you'd never know what actually happened and all you could do is imagine what occurred which may be worse.

Also just because a person may unconscious doesn't mean the rape wasn't violent - how do you square that up.

You don't have to punch someone for the rape to be violent. he still forced himself into somewhere that he shouldn't have been. That can cause injury.

Very twisted logic.

So to answer the original question, Does that mean if you got very drunk, and were anally
raped, you couldn't remember what happened but the rape had torn your anal tissue.

You'd be more forgiving of the rapist would you?
No you don't have to punch but I think you know what I meant when I said violence, I've explained it to wummy several times already after all and I think I would be happier not remembering and I know for certain a Ex work colleague who was raped would be in a lot better place and wouldn't have tried.to commit suicide if he had no knowledge of what happened to him.

Kursk 27-12-2014 16:06
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35748982)
I've explained it to wummy several times
You've explained nothing except that when you're in a hole you really should stop digging.

But for our continued amusement I hope you still keep trying to explain your warped opinion.

Carlos Carboni 27-12-2014 16:11
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35748898)
She has had to move three times and get a new identity due to death threats.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...-calls-8000213
She revealed her new identity herself, why blame Evans or his supporters for that?

I cannot understand why Evans's lot hate her, she has done absolutely nothing against Evans, never pressed charges, she said nothing other "I cannot remember". Can somebody explain this to me?

Russ 27-12-2014 16:17
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
These may well be part of the reason.

Hugh 27-12-2014 18:00
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni (Post 35748990)
She revealed her new identity herself, why blame Evans or his supporters for that?

I cannot understand why Evans's lot hate her, she has done absolutely nothing against Evans, never pressed charges, she said nothing other "I cannot remember". Can somebody explain this to me?
Erm, care to back that up with a link.

9 people have been found guilty of naming her on Social Media.

Carlos Carboni 27-12-2014 21:17
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35749023)
Erm, care to back that up with a link.
You can't be serious, it is not legal to post it. I am not sure whether it is even legal to PM it to you...

I am sure you know that google.co.uk is censored. it states so at the bottom of the page.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35749023)
9 people have been found guilty of naming her on Social Media.
Indeed.

I would like to know why the tory MP that tweeted her name has not been prosecuted.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35748991)
These may well be part of the reason.
Just for those silly tweets? she appears to be just a poor girl with very few prospects in her life....

Mr Banana 27-12-2014 21:34
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Lots of views here but the fact is, at this moment he is a convicted rapist.

In response to the original question

If you were convicted of rape and served your time,

Would your employer welcome you back?

Would anybody else employ you when you answer the question, have you had a criminal conviction?

Paul 27-12-2014 22:09
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35748989)
But for our continued amusement I hope you still keep trying to explain your warped opinion.
The fact someones opinion is different to yours does not make it warped, refrain from this type of posting please.

Kursk 28-12-2014 00:48
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35749074)
The fact someones opinion is different to yours does not make it warped, refrain from this type of posting please.
Noted, although I have never suggested that having a different opinion to me makes someone else's opinion warped :erm:.

By the way, you didn't respond to the question here so I assume we adequately explained for you what he took from her when he violated her?

Russ 28-12-2014 06:05
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni (Post 35749063)

Just for those silly tweets? she appears to be just a poor girl with very few prospects in her life....
I said "part".

papa smurf 28-12-2014 09:20
Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football
 
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