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steveh 02-10-2013 09:44

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Originally Posted by jagsman (Post 35627471)
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that Netflix, will definitely be bundled with the XL package.

Why? Because it would be stupid of Virgin not to try and get this service in to its flagship package. And if they did try, it would be idiotic of Netflix to refuse to do a deal.

If that was to happen I think it would either require a price increase to XL that would push it beyond what people would readily pay or for Virgin to drop Virgin TVOD in place of Netflix. They've not shown a great deal of interest in being in the content business, so maybe the latter is the ultimate strategy?

Jong1 02-10-2013 09:56

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Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35627459)
Noticed that iTV 2, 3 and 4 are broadcasting in dolby digital pretty sure this was not the case. Yet iTV still continues to broadcast in PCM.

Remember, knowing it is "Dolby Digital" is only half the story. "Dolby Digital" audio is compressed and PER CHANNEL uses less bandwidth and is worse than PCM (uncompressed). What you need to know is whether they are using DD 2.0 (saving bandwidth) or DD 5.1 (full surround sound) or, rarely, something in between.

martin201002 02-10-2013 10:11

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Completely off topic but anyone playing gta online or fifa 14 on ps3 add kennedy201002 please. Thanks in advance.

Dr Gonzo 02-10-2013 10:46

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Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35627486)
This goes completely against what was on the Virgin website earlier in the week which said 6 months free when you sign up to XL.

The 6 months free offer also ties in with what happened with they Spotify deal.

The trouble is we don't know how up to date that webpage was? Obviously someone in VM uploaded the wrong version of that page, and considering how easy it is to change text and images on websites, it may just have been a test page to make sure the formatting was correct.

It would be great if it was bundled into XL, but it makes more sense to offer an extended free trial and then subscription afterwards (like Spotify) I would be happier with that as I currently pay £9.99 for a Lovefilm subscription that I don't really use anymore. So I could swap to the cheaper Netflix.

howardmicks 02-10-2013 10:56

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Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35627486)
This goes completely against what was on the Virgin website earlier in the week which said 6 months free when you sign up to XL.

The 6 months free offer also ties in with what happened with they Spotify deal.

Netflix in xl is only rumours if it is included in xl on temporary bases it still included in xl,im sure we will find out more over the coming weeks

gizuk 02-10-2013 11:03

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35627505)
Netflix in xl is only rumours if it is included in xl on temporary bases it still included in xl,im sure we will find out more over the coming weeks

The difference is, however, the 6 months free I saw was for new customers and so is importantly different to being included in XL. It was being offered free with XL.

JustaBloke 02-10-2013 11:08

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Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35627489)
Remember, knowing it is "Dolby Digital" is only half the story. "Dolby Digital" audio is compressed and PER CHANNEL uses less bandwidth and is worse than PCM (uncompressed). What you need to know is whether they are using DD 2.0 (saving bandwidth) or DD 5.1 (full surround sound) or, rarely, something in between.

It's DD 2.0 :rolleyes:

jagsman 02-10-2013 11:51

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I just think it would make good business sense for Netflix to make a deal with Virgin.

For example, if Virgin offer to pay them around £1 a month for every XL subscription, that would get Netflix a guaranteed income of around £2M a month. To get that same amount without a deal for XL, they would have to get over 15% of Virgin's XL subscribers to sign up. Considering the fact that only 500,000 people across the whole of the UK have subscribed to their service over the past year, then expecting to get another 333,000, from a much smaller catchment area, seems far fetched. So 2 million new customers, albeit paying less than the normal price, is a very tempting offer, especially when you see that their current total number of subscribers in the UK is only 1.5 million. It would also get them in 1st, before Lovefilm, that's got to count for something as well. Virgin could even offer to restrict their service to their set-top boxes only, as part of any deal.

Doug P 02-10-2013 11:53

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Assume as Netflix is going to be on VM Lovefilm won't.... makes sense

cdf90 02-10-2013 11:59

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35627450)
I have been told tonight that the new BBC HD channels may launch by end of year.

Judging by this press release from the BBC about the Doctor Who anniversary episode, any launch of the other HD channels could only be after 23rd November since the red button HD channel will still be in use until then.

"The free-to-air 3D coverage will be available to those with access to a 3D TV set and to the BBC’s HD Red Button service."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/wor...doctorwho.html

gizuk 02-10-2013 12:02

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Originally Posted by jagsman (Post 35627524)
I just think it would make good business sense for Netflix to make a deal with Virgin.

For example, if Virgin offer to pay them around £1 a month for every XL subscription, that would get Netflix a guaranteed income of around £2M a month. To get that same amount without a deal for XL, they would have to get over 15% of Virgin's XL subscribers to sign up.

Not necessarily. If all new customers get 6 months free they will rely on a percentage of them keeping the service and starting to pay.

alwaysabear 02-10-2013 12:27

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35627469)
On this day (One off post):

-2003: NTL and Telewest both launch Sky Sports Xtra (Sky Sports 4) for the first time ever.

Remember it well, it meant my son and I could watch all NFL games shown on Sky.:D

ocav 02-10-2013 12:37

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Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35627526)
Judging by this press release from the BBC about the Doctor Who anniversary episode, any launch of the other HD channels could only be after 23rd November since the red button HD channel will still be in use until then.

"The free-to-air 3D coverage will be available to those with access to a 3D TV set and to the BBC’s HD Red Button service."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/wor...doctorwho.html

I've said before, if Doctor Who finishes before 7 then that night would be a good night to launch BBC Three HD.

Run 3D DW on the new HD playout and start BBC Three at 7, then start CBBC the following morning!

Doug P 02-10-2013 13:16

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Would doubt Dr Who at 75 minutes running time will finish before 7....

jagsman 02-10-2013 14:12

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Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35627527)
Not necessarily. If all new customers get 6 months free they will rely on a percentage of them keeping the service and starting to pay.

The percentage they would get, would generate nowhere near the income that a possible XL deal would.


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