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dazed&confused 07-08-2013 13:29
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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35606704)
3D is a nearly dead duck imo....
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606706)
Its very much a niche product for the few diehards.
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Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 35606723)
How often do people upgrade their sets. Maybe every six years? I've not been interested in 3D because my old set could not do 3D. My new Sony W9 can and it's amazing. Much better than the cinema as well. Everyone who has seen it has been impressed. I think it's more a case of the industry expected it to move alot quicker than it has but people don't have alot of money to throw around and TV's are not a priority in hard times.
If you watch a blu-ray 3D film on a compatible TV it is stunning.
Unfortunately the movies on TV are only at 720p, which degrades the experience.
Until the TV companies can transmit in a higher resolution, I'm afraid that we won't see too much 3D coming soon (see how I stayed on topic):)

Doug P 07-08-2013 13:33
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It won't come anytime soon with the BBC abandoning it after this year....

muppetman11 07-08-2013 13:44
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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35606717)
Yes but as I pointed out, Atlantic hasn't got a massive hype anymore, most of the recent subscriptions will be for people wanting BT Sport. Let's be honest if you really wanted Atlantic you would have gone by now.

I'm sure the extra £18 million (based on my calculations) plus the addition ad revenue they can draw in through higher reach is worth it, there are no additional costs involved by adding to virgin as virgin take the sat stream and do all the work for them, basically it's a free £18 million.
To be fair the £18 million figure is pure guesswork , none of us know whats going on behind the scenes with negotiations , as I've said I believe its as much about keeping customers as attracting new ones , if you keep customers you have the ability to upsell something VM themselves have been excellent at with TIVO and faster BB speeds.

OLD BOY 07-08-2013 13:46
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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35606756)
It won't come anytime soon with the BBC abandoning it after this year....
To be fair, the BBC are cash-strapped at the moment, don't forget they were considering the closure of some of their channels recently and they have cut back on their already meagre funding for BBC 4.

I think it is up to the likes of Sky with their big pockets to promote 3D and make it a success. Very few can afford 3D TV at present, but the price of these TVs is coming down rapidly, so we could see more interest over the next few years.

Chad 07-08-2013 13:53
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35606763)
To be fair the £18 million figure is pure guesswork , none of us know whats going on behind the scenes with negotiations , as I've said I believe its as much about keeping customers as attracting new ones , if you keep customers you have the ability to upsell something VM themselves have been excellent at with TIVO and faster BB speeds.
I have to agree.

Behind the scenes SKY have been conducting feedback sessions on how much value SKY customers put on SKY Atlantic. You may have seen it yourself or even participated on that SKY site we are both members of.

Plenty of feedback suggesting it's SKY Atlantic programming that keeps current customers with SKY. Plenty more feedback suggesting SKY customers would consider moving provider should SKY Atlantic be made available on other platforms.

You know and I know, from other things we've participated in for reasearch purposes on behalf of SKY, that they take feedback from existing customers very seriously. For this reason alone I have doubts SKY Atlantic will ever become available on other platforms.

mollda 07-08-2013 14:01
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Having given my 30 days notice to leave virgin, got a call from someone at Virgin on a 0800 number, seeing what they could do to keep me to stay. Listened to what that had to say, and all they could offer was to reduce my services in order to reduce my bill. They would not offer any discount to my current bill. Told them very politely no thanks. Deal with Sky/BT much cheaper, plus also BT Sports and Sky Atlantic. She did say that they were still in discussions with BT and was hopeful they would have it by the end of the month. No guarantees though. Also mentioned there is nothing further on SKY Atlantic and no deal was close.

borrissey 07-08-2013 14:07
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I don't think VM will be getting Sky Atlantic, BT sports probably in time...

ocav 07-08-2013 14:12
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35606765)
To be fair, the BBC are cash-strapped at the moment, don't forget they were considering the closure of some of their channels recently and they have cut back on their already meagre funding for BBC 4.

I think it is up to the likes of Sky with their big pockets to promote 3D and make it a success. Very few can afford 3D TV at present, but the price of these TVs is coming down rapidly, so we could see more interest over the next few years.
Closure of what channels? They are launching them? With all channels (except parliament) going HD by early next year!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35606744)
Don't forget what they got in return for those channels from Sky. I think the sense of the strategy may make more sense to us in due course, but of course there is nothing to stop VM from commissioning other providers to give us new exclusive channels or programming if they want to do so.

I think VM realised that Sky's tactics meant that the price of new shows, etc would escalate rapidly as the two companies sought to get all the best programmes for their own channels. VM didn't have the resources to play Sky's game and in the end there would only be one winner.
Virgin got nothing out of Sky through the sale of their stake in UKTV.

Lew 07-08-2013 14:18
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Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35606754)
Unfortunately the movies on TV are only at 720p, which degrades the experience.
1080i, actually.

borrissey 07-08-2013 14:23
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35606789)
1080i, actually.
Yep, roll on 1080p :)

Dave42 07-08-2013 14:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35606769)
I have to agree.

Behind the scenes SKY have been conducting feedback sessions on how much value SKY customers put on SKY Atlantic. You may have seen it yourself or even participated on that SKY site we are both members of.

Plenty of feedback suggesting it's SKY Atlantic programming that keeps current customers with SKY. Plenty more feedback suggesting SKY customers would consider moving provider should SKY Atlantic be made available on other platforms.

You know and I know, from other things we've participated in for reasearch purposes on behalf of SKY, that they take feedback from existing customers very seriously. For this reason alone I have doubts SKY Atlantic will ever become available on other platforms.
only thing SA will ever go on is now tv if anywhere no chance in hell that it go to VM

Risco 07-08-2013 14:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35606765)
To be fair, the BBC are cash-strapped at the moment, don't forget they were considering the closure of some of their channels recently and they have cut back on their already meagre funding for BBC 4.

I think it is up to the likes of Sky with their big pockets to promote 3D and make it a success. Very few can afford 3D TV at present, but the price of these TVs is coming down rapidly, so we could see more interest over the next few years.
3D is dead in the living room, at least until we get true glasses free which is a fair way off. 4k is the new 3D.

denphone 07-08-2013 14:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35606799)
only thing SA will ever go on is now tv if anywhere no chance in hell that it go to VM
Well we shall see Dave as never say never.:)

Dave42 07-08-2013 15:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35606811)
Well we shall see Dave as never say never.:)
don't hold your breath Den no way will sky want to lose customers to VM even you know that

gadge 07-08-2013 15:09
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Been away for a while busy home improvements much been happening?.


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