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And the wages would be better, it's all right for Roland from Poland and his pals living three or four to a house and still filling their boots on low paid jobs but quite another for your average English person with a family to do the same. friends who work in factories and warehouses have told me they.were paid better ten years ago for doing similar work than they get now in actual cash.

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Excellent post Sir :tu:

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Its the open door policy that has made me so anti EU, We are the alternative benefits system for people from other country's who come here and decide they can be better off on benefits because we are idiots and let them do it.

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Is there a lot of evidence of EU citizens of other states claiming benefits?

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...rom_abroad.htm

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I look at it this way, I would do what l felt was best for my wife and family, no matter what we say the policticans will have there own way.

Its like all of them, they are all talk when they want your vote then disappear into the woodwork.

IF there has to be a vote then it should be done as soon as possible, Cameron has been saying for months that he will decide when he is ready.

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Sorry my bad English but i am sure you will get the point
I am not going to say about which politician is better or about general UK or EU laws because to me does not matter as they have set it how the big one want and not how we want

This is interest/games guys of the Elite behind politicians

UK joined EU on the slide side (with out asking people but also the other EU countries), just UK did not joined their currency

Now their interest/game seems for a reason has changed/is not good, so now vote for going out ... lol...something "smells"
If they wanted stay in, they will not say a world going out or in and would had thinks be/stay the same

To my understanding are like 2 powers (worldwide)

One want EU as it is and an other want EU broke (both for their own reasons)
We only looking UK but if you look what is happening in EU is something similar (talks for economic problems and some countries is better to go out)

Is like holding a balloon in the water (is a general meaning for all EU countries) which needs pressure
Some time by nature this pressure holding the balloon will weaker then it will come out of the water due to its air into it...and will come out with more pressure than applied to keep it in

To the point now...
Politicians now knows EU turns to change from the first time joined & something very serious is going to happen in EU this year or in the worst case next begin year at maximum and will affect UK too if is economic
To me does not matter if UK stay out or in... or have different money or not

Example .... if US dollar go down automatic all marketing will go up...gas,electric petrol,Wall Street etc even if Russia,China,EU,UK etc has different currency everything globally will have affect

I know few will call me silly saying this but if look little more behind may understand

Prepare and be aware (every one with its own search) i think will come difficult times

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I cannot believe anyone is taking Cameron's word on a referendum seriously.

He made exactly the same pledge at the last election and reneged on it. He will do exactly the same again. He is taking the electorate for a load of mugs with short term memory problems.

This whole referendum scam is just a ploy to get himself and his party re-elected.

Vote UKIP. It seems to be the only choice if you really want a referendum on Europe.

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Really you think they look for work with pocket loads of cash & a home to stay in which they pay for.Also if they time it right . They can leave the UK & claim all the income tax they paid back. :mad:

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They're not allowed to sit there and soak up benefits is my point.

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with respect Maggie but yes it is ,it is also about any other EU directive forced on us .Immigration will be at the forefront of most peoples mind when they eventually get to put the cross in a box on a referendum paper ,so i think it is very much on topic

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I want control of our borders, our taxes, our immigration, our work time directive, in other words i want our mp's who were voted for by our people to be able to make rules for our country and our people.

why should some unelected bureaucrat in Brussels be able to dictate to this country what they can and cannot do.

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Well said that man :tu:

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I think the only MP with any sense that has said anything is the guy from UKIP, if we need the vote for the public, then we should have it NOW, NOT if Cameron gets back in, which he won't.

All Cameron is doing is trying to make a promise IF he gets in power again - whats he scared of, IF he went to the country on that promise, then would almost cerainly lose, as we have heard his promises for.

My prediction for a general election would be

Labour,
UKIP
Cons
Lib Dem

The Tories would lose by a massive margin due to the present situation UKIP would get second, as he has spoken more sense than both Milliband and Cameron and l think thats what we need.