Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

Well as of April 2012 no family earning £26k or more will get Tax Credits or Child Tax Credits. The letters are being received at the moment. Now whether this will include those whose total benefits (excluding child benefit) are over £26k or not will cause a whole other argument.

For me it equals about 6% of my income, as a family not so much.

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

am i right in that these changes will not take effect untill next year because tax credits are paid based on last years earnings or is it a case of any family having a combined income of £26k last tax year will not recieve any payments this year .I assume the £545 allowance for children with families who earn under £50k is still there

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

Nope they end as of April 2012. I have the letter from the tax man. :fit:

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

Year's ago I was diagnosed with a mental illness, caused by drug's. But I'm considerably lucky now that I earn the amount I do.

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

Marty the trouble is with what the government is doing to longterm disabled only cuts fraud in headlines not by a sizeable amount in reality. For quite a while now you couldn't be officially longterm disabled without providing supporting medical evidence i know because i have supplied it in some cases and agreed on them contacting whoever they needed although asking i think was more politeness as i am sure they can request it whether i agree or not.

Most benefit fraud now is on shortterm usually in six month increments i know because more then one person has detailed how they do it on some of the medical forums i go on (keep upto date on new treatments, developments for my condition). None of the reforms that are doing real damage to longterm sick are catching that group or impacting them in the slightest thats where my anger comes from they are lying to the public knowing damn well it isn't about fraud it's cost cutting at whatever cost.

I do and always have said there needs to be reform of the welfare system my past posts on this forum will show that. They have to be meaningful practical reforms that address all needs for the short, medium and longterm. What is being done right now by this government with a lot of mistruth in your name is none of that.

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

Ok so there is no misunderstanding.

You see nothing wrong with the current level of tax credits paid out for children but you think disabled related benefits need cutting?

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

Until the Government comes up with a lot of decent well paid jobs, they will fail!

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What about the Tax Evaders? they have stolen HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS!!! :mad: :td:

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The victims of this better vote for the Far-Left after this!

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

And if they don't?

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

So people should vote for the communist party of Great Britain?

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

you make very good points all departments should talk to each other. I also think one form should be enough. Blackpool DLA should be completely link with local benefits office council should be linked to stop the housing fraud.

Surely if the government system interlinked we would see less fraud.

Its left to individuals to inform departments think it should be automatic. To claim dsibility you fill two forms one for DLA one for benefits surely on survices most questions are exactly the same. Streamline the system is needed not major heart surgery which we seeing.

I dont disagree with the support - work disabled thinking of ESA. idea thats not bad those who able to work should be able to get help. Those who cant work should get the required help they need. Its hard for disabled to find jobs they need a help to fight there corner. I would also like to see disabled companies setup who soley employ disabled free of regulation and possible financially support. Those who work group should not lose entitlements just because disabilty wont restrict as such. It also should be flexible say someone in support feels capable should be able to use a contact to sort it out and vice versa. I also think work from home system for disabled could be introduced. The cynic in me ESA been introduced to circumvent the lifetime contracts of genuine disabled. Fear goalpost move so bad to literally make it impossible for disabled to get the support needed.

However dont like the way government dealing with ESA system. I dont think there atitude of nobody on benefits for life is right. It gives out signals of certain disabled not got illnesses they wont recover. There is people who will be ill for there lifetime so therefore should get lifetime support. Some born with it some who fell ill later or accident caused it. I would say 100% that disabled would swap there lifestyle for others. Medical breakthroughs have come on but not all illnesses will be wiped out just yet. way you hear people miracle cures are there some medications are available but governments often wont support them due to costs to NHS. So some look at charities to try get medication which either cures or eases it.

media and those who like to think disabled are scroungers. The hate then becomes from that. Sadly reality is many who have been thrown off still disabled but goalpost moved. I certainly dont like the all glocves fit all approach to tackling it.

Disabled should get the help they need problem lies every thing not black and white but people want it so.

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

REMPLOY in Wales does that, and has done since WW2 I think, but disabled groups want them shut down due to discrimination!

http://www.remploy.co.uk/about-us.ashx

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

yep read an old article it was to support more into disabled work but not sure if they would support that point today. As not sure it will create more help at all she said at the time instead 70,000 in work more 100,000 could be helped was never sure that it would work or the numbers.

Radar was the charity not sure if Liz Sayce agree with her original comments.

Personally I felt she was wrong at the time Remploy does fantastic job employing disabled which would normally not get work or find it hard to get companies employing them.

I bet Radar never thought in 12 months what was going to happen to disabled. I think remploy needs to stay and even expanded.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...es-could-close

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

nope totally wrong read what was posted not what you think i posted

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

Benefit's helped me when I was unemployed and then retraining to do my present job.

Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
 

And in Leicestershire there is Advance Employment :D