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martyh 14-03-2011 16:28

Re: This is what is wrong with this country ?
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35192659)
A fair wage is a living wage not the minimum, far to many companies seem to have it as the default wage these days imo.

That is correct ,what i meant in my post was people can't expect a wage that will give them 2 cars and umpteen holidays abroard when they have no skill set .I also agree that the minimum wage seems to be the default setting for wages at the unskilled end of the scale and getting above that seems to be very hard .The minimum wage law seems to be a double edged sword imo ,on one hand it guarantees a minimum wage but employers will always try to keep wages as close to it as possible

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35192711)
That's what the voter will want. or do you expect every parties manifesto is going to say we promise to cut this and that, and the public will vote for the one with the most cuts planned?

it used to be the case that we voted for a party that said they we're going to put more police on the street. remember them days?


I think Cameron touched on that when he was elected ,i seem to remember him saying that he only has one term in office to turn things around because the cuts he has to make will be so unpopular that labour will get straight back in power .
Unless he is a lot more aggressive in his stance against labour,and by that i mean being 100% open about the mess that labour made of what was at the time labour came to power a very strong economy,then i don't think he has a cat in hells chance of retaining power .I think a few tv interviews about "the state of the nation" explaining clearly why these cuts have to be made because sadly there is still a large section of society who do not understand that we have no money left and the only reason labour could get us into so much debt by using our AAA credit rating was because of the previous tory government who got us that AAA credit rating

Osem 14-03-2011 20:39

Re: This is what is wrong with this country ?
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35192711)
That's what the voter will want. or do you expect every parties manifesto is going to say we promise to cut this and that, and the public will vote for the one with the most cuts planned?

it used to be the case that we voted for a party that said they we're going to put more police on the street. remember them days?

It's not what I want. I'm a realist. I know that New Labour stitched us up and spent/wasted vast amounts money they didn't have. I wouldn't vote for that. How about you?

nutellajunkie 15-03-2011 03:04

Re: This is what is wrong with this country ?
 
one word. contraception.

TheNorm 15-03-2011 05:35

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Originally Posted by nutellajunkie (Post 35192953)
one word. contraception.

Erm, are you in the right thread? :erm:

Gary L 15-03-2011 07:31

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35192875)
It's not what I want. I'm a realist. I know that New Labour stitched us up and spent/wasted vast amounts money they didn't have. I wouldn't vote for that. How about you?

I won't vote for either of them.

Sirius 15-03-2011 08:58

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Originally Posted by nutellajunkie (Post 35192953)
one word. contraception.

But you see thats not such good idea for those that know how to milk the Benefits and CSA system is it. ;)

Ignitionnet 15-03-2011 09:30

Re: This is what is wrong with this country ?
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35193011)
But you see thats not such good idea for those that know how to milk the Benefits and CSA system is it. ;)

The obvious solution is of course to change the benefits system :)

As far as milking the CSA system goes it's fairly simple - if you do the deed you should man up and face the consequences. If more men did less of our money would be spent supporting their children.

Sparkle 15-03-2011 09:36

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35193026)
As far as milking the CSA system goes it's fairly simple - if you do the deed you should man up and face the consequences. If more men did less of our money would be spent supporting their children.

I somehow don't think its quite as simple as that ;)

Sirius 15-03-2011 09:48

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Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 35193031)
I somehow don't think its quite as simple as that ;)

Indeed. Drink normally increases the risk that some poor lad will be conned by the oldest trick in the book.

Gary L 15-03-2011 10:06

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35193038)
Indeed. Drink normally increases the risk that some poor lad will be conned by the oldest trick in the book.

LOL
the poor lads get tricked into giving her a pregnant pension. they get nothing out of it at all. not even the dirty nappies :)

Sparkle 15-03-2011 10:18

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35193038)
Indeed. Drink normally increases the risk that some poor lad will be conned by the oldest trick in the book.

Would that be the beergoggles phenomenon coupled with the increased propensity to believe the "I'm on the pill" gag ?
Judging by some of the talent I've seen up the duff, single and claiming benefits - I'd assume so. :)

Sirius 15-03-2011 10:28

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Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 35193053)
Would that be the beergoggles phenomenon coupled with the increased propensity to believe the "I'm on the pill" gag ?
Judging by some of the talent I've seen up the duff, single and claiming benefits - I'd assume so. :)

You hit the nail on the head there, :tu:

Maggy 15-03-2011 12:55

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35193038)
Indeed. Drink normally increases the risk that some poor lad will be conned by the oldest trick in the book.

In a few cases possibly.However there are many whom don't give a toss about their progeny except as bragging rights..:rolleyes:

Sirius 15-03-2011 13:31

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35193120)
In a few cases possibly.However there are many whom don't give a toss about their progeny except as bragging rights..:rolleyes:

I agree fully, But there are lots of young girls out there that see it as a ticket to a house, benefits and 18 years of money from some poor lad who fell for the oldest trick in the book. "honest i am on the pill" :rolleyes:

Hugh 15-03-2011 13:33

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35193148)
I agree fully, But there are lots of young girls out there that see it as a ticket to a house, benefits and 18 years of money from some poor lad who fell for the oldest trick in the book. "honest i am on the pill" :rolleyes:

They should take precautions.




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