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Mr Angry 15-05-2010 19:58

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35021953)
Interesting if you look at it from another angle.
just supposing it wasn't religion but something else. like say you believed in aliens and some believed in fairies, whilst others believed in lepricorns.

a group of fairy and alien believers had to go and visit a place where they believed in lepricorns. and to show respect for that visit you had to wear a green hat and a ginger wig.

You mean like this...

papa smurf 15-05-2010 21:02

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35022426)
You mean like this...

thats the one known as old pop corn the oldest and wisest of the lepricorns;)

Gary L 15-05-2010 23:01

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35022426)
You mean like this...

Yes.

frogstamper 16-05-2010 01:37

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I don't think that many people would disagree that the Daily Mail comes across as being a little sympathetic toward the mother and daughter in question.
So for totally unbiased reporting can anybody honestly say the DM would have put the same slant on the story had this been a Muslim girl visiting a church, and her mother made an equally vacuous excuse for not attending?
Its precisely the editorial tome of newspapers like the Express, Mail and Sun that reinforces the views of people like Mrs Owen, these anti-Muslim stories are now printed on an almost daily basis by these three rags, so is it any wonder that this drip drip continual bashing is having an effect?
From a personal point of view I can't see putting a scarf around your head and wearing trousers is dressing like a Muslim, the girls are hardly being made to wear a burkha.
If her mother was a little more open minded she might learn from her daughter after the visit that not all Muslims are carbon copies of Abu Hamza.

papa smurf 16-05-2010 09:18

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 35022604)
I don't think that many people would disagree that the Daily Mail comes across as being a little sympathetic toward the mother and daughter in question.
So for totally unbiased reporting can anybody honestly say the DM would have put the same slant on the story had this been a Muslim girl visiting a church, and her mother made an equally vacuous excuse for not attending?
Its precisely the editorial tome of newspapers like the Express, Mail and Sun that reinforces the views of people like Mrs Owen, these anti-Muslim stories are now printed on an almost daily basis by these three rags, so is it any wonder that this drip drip continual bashing is having an effect?
From a personal point of view I can't see putting a scarf around your head and wearing trousers is dressing like a Muslim, the girls are hardly being made to wear a burkha.
If her mother was a little more open minded she might learn from her daughter after the visit that not all Muslims are carbon copies of Abu Hamza.

one could argue if Islam was a little more open minded [re its treatment of females and what they must cover,and give a little thought to the feelings and beliefs of others] then there would not be a problem .

Xaccers 16-05-2010 17:52

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35022618)
one could argue if Islam was a little more open minded [re its treatment of females and what they must cover,and give a little thought to the feelings and beliefs of others] then there would not be a problem .

You know, on top of Mount Sinai there is St Catherine's monastery.
They insist visiting women cover up and dress respectfully.
Does that mean christianity isn't open minded?

Gary L 16-05-2010 18:04

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35022792)
You know, on top of Mount Sinai there is St Catherine's monastery.
They insist visiting women cover up and dress respectfully.
Does that mean christianity isn't open minded?

Christianity in itself isn't open minded. otherwise there wouldn't be a book called "How to Be an Open-Minded Christian Without Losing Your Faith" and there's some who don't like homosexuals and stuff.

Xaccers 16-05-2010 18:09

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35022797)
Christianity in itself isn't open minded. otherwise there wouldn't be a book called "How to Be an Open-Minded Christian Without Losing Your Faith" and there's some who don't like homosexuals and stuff.

Then how do you explain gay bishops?

Gary L 16-05-2010 18:13

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Then how do you explain gay bishops?

By saying that Christianity in itself is not open minded. otherwise there wouldn't be any objections by fellow christians.

Xaccers 16-05-2010 18:19

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By saying that Christianity in itself is not open minded. otherwise there wouldn't be any objections by fellow christians.

If it was close minded then you wouldn't have any gay bishops.

Gary L 16-05-2010 18:49

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If it was close minded then you wouldn't have any gay bishops.

So are you saying that christianity is all open minded. or are you saying that it's not all open minded?

RizzyKing 16-05-2010 19:02

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Here we go descent into complete anti religious rubbish no debate to be had here cya later.

Xaccers 16-05-2010 19:06

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35022839)
So are you saying that christianity is all open minded. or are you saying that it's not all open minded?

I'm not saying either.
I'm asking if christianity is closed minded because in monasteries women are asked to cover up.

Gary L 16-05-2010 19:10

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35022855)
I'm not saying either.
I'm asking if christianity is closed minded because in monasteries women are asked to cover up.

We are both saying that it's a bit of both. I don't think there's any religion or any person that is fully open minded.

Hugh 16-05-2010 20:15

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Christianity in itself isn't open minded. otherwise there wouldn't be a book called "How to Be an Open-Minded Christian Without Losing Your Faith" and there's some who don't like homosexuals and stuff.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35022856)
We are both saying that it's a bit of both. I don't think there's any religion or any person that is fully open minded.

Nice to see the goalposts moving again....:D


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