Originally Posted by ratspeaker (Post 34941936)

I can tell from the large amount of unsolicited spam mails for viagra exactly how email is used today.

Originally Posted by ratspeaker (Post 34941856)

Of course it doesn't matter that yet again Virgin Media are reducing what they give the customer, unilaterally, and selling this reduction in service as a feature. I don't pay Google for my mail service I pay Virgin Media and I expect the mail service they sold me when I signed up, not what they now think I should now have. As for the poor mites who get infected by stupidly running attachments, they should put the P.C. back in the box and take it back to the store and tell the sales person that they are too stupid to own a computer and could they please have their money back. Its a PC, not an Internet entertainment box, it should require a degree of technical expertise to use! Personally, for me this is the last straw, I am migrating all my services elsewhere, that should hit virgin in the pocket. They can no longer supply what I require at a price I am prepared to pay.

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34940578)

You evidently haven't seen the issues with the ex-Blue Yonder email platform recently, nor the problems historically with the ex-ntl one. This will provide a more stable, reliable and better service to the vast majority of users. That it may inconvenience a tiny minority who may wish to send these files is a non-issue........

Originally Posted by Captain W (Post 34942155)

You obviously haven't used GMail, or Google's Corporate version for Sky - both have had issues over the last couple of years, from lockouts to sights and servers going down - I'm speaking from experience and not hearsay

Hopefully, you or Virgin's customer's aren't plagued by the problems we have experienced - in fact just last week, we had issues with a very slow access and timeing out stating their was an 'Internet Connection Problem' - this lasted about 4 or 5 days and was the same issue on Sky's Email & Tools and GMail, both in our office and at home. It is a shame as I like their services.

Back on the topic of sending files - I totally understand why they've done this and have to agree with the majority, if you'd like to send such files, perhaps you should look for a business service that will allow you to do this. Out of interest, the ntl:Telewest broadband/telephony business service - do they supply email services and will that move the same way?

Originally Posted by ratspeaker (Post 34941907)

Firstly, I'm sure Virgin Media would like us all to consider that we pay them just for Internet connectivity, and that email, usenet access, webspace etc are free add ons. It doesn't change the fact that I signed up for an advertised package that had a specification. Ie I pay X beer-tokens and Virgin give me what they advertised at the time I signed up. These days they are reducing their service to suit the masses who do not demand the same technical facilities as the savvy user, boosting their profits at the same time.

I don't consider my attitude arrogant and condescending. The P.C. was designed to be a general purpose computing device and the Internet a medium for the exchange of information. I would argue that Microsoft, Apple etc have warped the purpose of these things for rampant commercial reasons to the detriment of everyone. The P.C. has been dumbed down and sold as an Internet Entertainment System and the Internet reduced to a parody of the high street containing mass advertising and dwindling content of any real worth. Facts that I find quite sad really.

Yes I have had a few so called speed upgrades. I don't get whats advertised, if I use what I pay for I get throttled whoops I mean traffic managed. So I will move my services because Virgin can no longer or are unwilling to supply the service I require. That's not because my demands have changed thats because Virgin Media have unilaterally changed the terms of my contract to my detriment in order to pander to what they perceive as the mass market.

Originally Posted by Captain W (Post 34942155)

You obviously haven't used GMail, or Google's Corporate version for Sky - both have had issues over the last couple of years, from lockouts to sights and servers going down - I'm speaking from experience and not hearsay

Hopefully, you or Virgin's customer's aren't plagued by the problems we have experienced - in fact just last week, we had issues with a very slow access and timeing out stating their was an 'Internet Connection Problem' - this lasted about 4 or 5 days and was the same issue on Sky's Email & Tools and GMail, both in our office and at home. It is a shame as I like their services.

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34942185)

I've been using Gmail since 2004. I've had one or two instances of brief issues in that time. There have been multiple issues recently with the BlueYonder exchange cluster and the ex-ntl email platform I am very familiar with and I'm not going to go into why it had its' issues in too much depth.

Either way YMMV I've had next to no issues at all with GMail in over 5 years of usage.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34942191)

Gmail does what it says on the tin simple as that. Its never let me down.

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34942268)

They did it for the newsgroups and I think the general response has been very positive. Outsource non-core activity to experts and specialists, simples.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34942176)

I use gmail and have not had any of the problems you have had ????

Originally Posted by Captain W (Post 34943116)

... and what difference does that make????