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Osem 14-05-2008 13:41

Ripper's rights??
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7400324.stm

It's all ok though because Jacquie Smith reckons:

"Top of my list of priorities, I have to say, is not Peter Sutcliffe's rights, it's the rights of those people who were his victims, and how we keep this country safe."

Yeah right! :rolleyes:

Derek 14-05-2008 13:46

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Rights of his victims?

Hows that going to work? Go up to a graveyard in the dead of night and ask if they feel their right to life was infringed by him?

(OK I know some of his victims didn't die)

Maggy 15-05-2008 11:11

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34551878)
(OK I know some of his victims didn't die)

Sadly some of them have been so scarred in so many ways that they have changed personalities so it could be claimed that they did die as the people they were.

I personally wonder if some barristers and solicitors are so bound up in their own little world that they don't actually really stop and think about the impact of their 'ground breaking' challenges to the law.

I also think the fact that Sutcliffe has changed his name is rather worrying..As if he was planning for a life on the outside.:(

RizzyKing 15-05-2008 11:17

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An appeal are they ****ing kidding is there any sense left in this stupid country if there was anyone that should stay banged up for the rest of his natural it is this bloke. Time for some short answers to matters like this something along the lines of "we intend to lodge an appeal on behalf of peter sutcliffe, ha ha ha thats a good one now **** off".

Osem 15-05-2008 12:30

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7402306.stm

Let's hope these two don't get released any time soon.

Interstingly the article claims that at the time, the Police Commissioner accused the media of "institutional racism" claiming that the murder of lawyer Tom ap Rhys Price's was given more press coverage.

...and there was I thinking that the enormous media coverage of the Stephen Lawrence case and the resulting public enquiry led to the Police being branded institutionally racist :confused:

trevortt 15-05-2008 14:31

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Peter Sutcliffe should be hanged.

Nugget 15-05-2008 14:42

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Originally Posted by trevortt (Post 34552717)
Peter Sutcliffe should be hanged.

If hanging wasn't illegal...

Saaf_laandon_mo 15-05-2008 15:12

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Originally Posted by trevortt (Post 34552717)
Peter Sutcliffe should be hanged.

why? is he black? asian? not white?

roadwolf 15-05-2008 16:55

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34552759)
why? is he black? asian? not white?

He's quite dark;);););) anyway to appeal to the court of human rights I think you have to be human, which peter sutcliffe clearly isn't.

Hugh 15-05-2008 17:06

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34552759)
why? is he black? asian? not white?

tchh, tchh - I think you will find the term is "Indigenous Briton" ;)

Saaf_laandon_mo 15-05-2008 17:12

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34552850)
tchh, tchh - I think you will find the term is "Indigenous Briton" ;)

I didn't think certain people would understand what I was trying to get at if I had used such a big word.;)

Osem 16-05-2008 22:17

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7404090.stm

So she gets a 26 month sentence (will probably only serve half??) for taking a child away from it's home and smuggling it into this country for the sole purpose of obtaining council housing (and benefits no doubt) by deception. The poor child will probably never know its family and will now be fostered in the UK for the foreseeable future. She only got caught due to her stupidity and the diligence of council staff involved so I wonder how often this sort of thing happens and remains undetected... :mad:

Derek 16-05-2008 22:18

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When she gets released (26 months, assuming she was on bail then this time next year) won't she get a council house so she can be re-integrated into the community?

Osem 16-05-2008 22:20

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34553866)
When she gets released (26 months, assuming she was on bail then this time next year) won't she get a council house so she can be re-integrated into the community?

Well it really wouldn't surprise me!!!

Osem 22-05-2008 15:21

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7414226.stm

It'll be interesting to see what this young thug gets although it's refreshing to see that he's been done for murder even though he didn't fire the fatal shots. I feel an appeal coming on though....... :(

---------- Post added at 12:59 ---------- Previous post was at 12:47 ----------

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7413885.stm

HMG claims crime figures are falling, maybe this is one reason why.....

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http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/br...ay_release.php

Ernest Saunders made a remarklable recovery too didn't he?

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/ar...8&in_page_id=2


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