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kimi should be disqualified for not starting the race with the right tyres.

The excuse "we didn't know" is BS. every one else knew

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If they had gained an advantage, I would agree, but as it turned out they would have had to change them, anyway, once the safety car had gone in, as the conditions were still too wet for intermediates at racing speed.

Ferrari were in a shambles, compared to their usual standards, today....

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Lewis could be in trouble -

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40921

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Looking at the video, his driving was a bit odd. Does anyone know why he took the corner so slow and wide?

Also, how comes there's no official video footage of it? The news showed a mobile capture...

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he is a professional driver, he should have been aware of everything, not watching hamilton in case he had a problem

ik

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I think because of the difficult driving conditions, Hamilton will get away with it (I dont think he did anything deliberately wrong, just drove erratically). With a safety car out, and rain pouring down, as well as very poor visibility, the cars behind didnt need to be so close.

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it was missed by most of the cameras so the only good footage of the whole incident is from a camera from the stands.

lewis nearly ran into the back of the safety car and so had to brake to avoid that.. Webber had to move and brake to avoid hitting or passing Hamilton, although I think he could have passed and them let hem straight back in front, which meant Vettel had no other option but to hit the back of Webber

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He may get his knuckles wrapped for it, i just think he was pulling out of the spray from the safety car so he could actually see but then found he had very little grip or somthing.

I cant remember but was that the lap before they were bringing the safety car in ? in which case the rules of following the safety car closely do not apply

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Schumacher did this in Monza a few years ago and it forced Button out of the race and nothing was done.

Although one of them drives for Ferrari and banning the other would help out Ferrari :shocked:

It was the lap the safety car was coming in but I think the lights were still on at the time so the rules do apply but i'd have to check what they are TBH

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Who reported the video to the FIA?
Quote from Formila 1 website:-
Scuderia Toro Rosso team principal contacted the race stewards after seeing a Youtube video of the incident that saw STR's Sebastian Vettel ram into Mark Webber.
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Enough said, what engines do Toro Ross use? is it by any chance Ferrari?
so no guessing who is really behind it.

In the video Hamalton was nowhere near the other cars and one driver has already admitted he wasn't looking where he was going.

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I think that link is a little tenuous for my liking....

...I think it probably has more to do with a driver who was on-course for his first podium of the season got smacked into and would like someone to blame. According to an interview with Vettel he went over to teammate Webber and apologised profuseley...why would he do that if Hamilton was to blame? And it's interesting this 'development' comes just after the FIA give Vettel a 10 place penalty for China.

It's also interesting reading an unrelated interview this week with Red Bull stablemate DC, saying what a great driver Hamilton is!

Boys, toys and prams!

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Vettel apologised before he had seen the clip of what happened. Talking about it later he said he thought Hamilton had a problem and was going to retire as he was going so slow. vettel was looking at Hamilton who was going slow. Webber braked so he didn't overtake Hamilton and Vettel wasn't looking. By the time he had noticed Webber had braked he had hit him

A racing incident anyway no reason to dock points or grid penalties

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I can see Hamilton be penalised 10 grid places, the FIA seem to have it in for McLaren and I don't think they want a 'rookie' to win the Championship.
Webber has also said that while he was critical of Hamiltons driving during the FIA press conference, he has, nor is making an official complaint.

Also, after Stepney has said Ferrari has had and used McLaren data, doubt we'll see any action being taken though: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62975

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Just heard on the news he isn't being punished :tu:

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Good call (imho) Linky