Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

My dad is bigger than your dad, and if you continue to steal my dinner money, my dad will beat your dad up. :rolleyes:

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

I was led to believe thats "just for starters", eventually, all of BT's subs will run of it, and the "copper" switches (system X Switches) will be "handed over" to the LLU peeps to do with what they wish

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

hi to all from a new member. interesting and informative forum. if as it seems ntl are short of cash why do the sales team seem not to interested in my purchase of phone/ tv/ broadband/notts-m1-juct 25 area. have four ntl manholes/two green boxes within fifty foot of my house & small conn box end of drive.yet it takes up to ten days to check out if i can get the service. both adjacent neighbours have the service. house numbers may be the problem as there are two houses on three plots, & established property.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Thanks for the information.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

This is an example of how pathetic BT are in this area:

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...=sidebarsearch

What exactly is the 'safety reason' for cutting the wire. ntl are certainally no worse than these clowns!

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Maybe something as trivial as a vehicle catching it, or perhaps it was dangerously close to an overhead mains cable.

Whatever the reason peoples safety comes before the internet.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

it was a safety reason, a vehicle catching on it etc.

also BT will compensate those customers greatly unlike ntl.

21CN will be to the home as well, they will be getting rid of system x switches, everything will be cabled up in the exchanges, frames engineers will be a thing of the past.

customers will dial a number or log onto a website to order a product and by the time they finish the call to an automated system or browse to a different page the product will be active on the customers account and delivered via 21CN.

i've worked for NTL, BT and Homechoice, i've never seen a network as impressive as 21CN albeit they were just the plans.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Makes you wonder why the guy, who was presumably a line technician didn't simply shorten the cable or re-tie it on the pole to lift it somewhat. doesn't take much to apply a couple of zip ties to a loop of cable really.

Would have been better than snipping it really.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

read a lot of this - original poster is crazy.

thats all i have to say.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

AFAIK, BT usually do just zip tie the cable to the post. At least they seem to in this area.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

WOW your defenition of 21CN is somewhat different to what BTs is.

BT often pass faulty services as fault free so in that regard you wouldnt get working service never mind compensated, 21CN is not on the local loop only up to the exchange.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

They can do most of what you describe already. As for 21cn to the home? Somehow I doubt it. BT would have to replace probably tens of thousands of MILES of copper pair cable, and the customer equipment (sockets) in the house. Bear in mind that legally, BT have to provide a connection to every house, regardless of whether the occupants of that house are customers or not.

Edit: Just done some checking. Seems that BT are not replacing the "last mile" of cable. They are going to be relying on ADSL 2+ (or another DSL technology) for that. Looked at like that, some people are going to be in exactly the same boat as they are today.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

From what i have seen of this so far. Its upgrades to their core network. It has nothing to do with the BT speaker wire connection. I am in and out of BT exchanges everyday and have had long conversations with BT engineers and everyone i talk to say this has nothing to do with the copper to the house.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Interesting Bill, is the general consensus from them the local loop needs work or do they see no problems with the limitations?

Every engineer I had over here shrugs their shoulders like everything is hunky dory.

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The feeling i get from them is that they know it needs updating, However its a long way from being implemented. There is talk of fibre to the cab but they just look at you as if your mad if you ask them if its anywhere near ready for deployment.

BT have a very good infrastructure until it comes to the last mile and that's where they are let down badly if you are talking adsl or adsl2+.