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Russ 01-08-2003 00:57

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Originally posted by kronas
yep i agree but everyone is entitled to an opinion and should be allowed to express it...........
So are you saying that if someone came on here and started making offensive and obscene remarks about your mother, they should be allowed to say it "because it's their opinion"??

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but what about the individual who wants peace and a normal life on earth dont they get a say ?
If that is God's plan then that's what they get, but remember that this isn't OUR life - it's God's. We don't OWN this life.

kronas 01-08-2003 01:01

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Originally posted by Russ D
So are you saying that if someone came on here and started making offensive and obscene remarks about your mother, they should be allowed to say it "because it's their opinion"??

i think you have misunderstood russ i never insulted anyone i just disagreed with something someone said and found there evidence BS IMO


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Originally posted by Russ D

If that is God's plan then that's what they get, but remember that this isn't OUR life - it's God's. We don't OWN this life.

hold it there russ this is MY life and i can guide it to where i want if i work hard enough its about self control

Russ 01-08-2003 01:06

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i think you have misunderstood russ i never insulted anyone i just disagreed with something someone said and found there evidence BS IMO
Just accept that writing off someone's beliefs as "BS" IS insulting. And I have never produced ANY evidence regarding christianity because I don't need to.

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hold it there russ this is MY life and i can guide it to where i want if i work hard enough its about self control
So it's your life is it? You are able to decide what mood you'll be in tomorrow, You decide who you meet tomorrow, You decide what weather you'll have tomorrow, You decide exactly what you'll be doing 10 years from right now, You control exactly what happens to you every day for the rest of your life? You controlled what day you were born on?

kronas 01-08-2003 01:13

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Originally posted by Russ D
Just accept that writing off someone's beliefs as "BS" IS insulting. And I have never produced ANY evidence regarding christianity because I don't need to.

ok if it is then it is as i said before id say it in any other circumstance maybe in a diffarent way...............

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Originally posted by Russ D

So it's your life is it? You are able to decide what mood you'll be in tomorrow, You decide who you meet tomorrow, You decide what weather you'll have tomorrow, You decide exactly what you'll be doing 10 years from right now, You control exactly what happens to you every day for the rest of your life? You controlled what day you were born on?

i could decide what mood im in by doing something to cheer myself up if need be

i could organize a meeting with someone or bump in to them

the weather thing is silly russ i never said that :)

as for the rest i couldnt control when i was born but i can control how sucessful i can become and my health and well being as long as i do the right thing

thats what i meant russ

Russ 01-08-2003 01:15

No, you cannot control how successful you are. If you have such control over your life, I challenge you to bag £10 million on this week's lottery.

You do that and I'll think about agreeing with you.

And as for your health.....just keep in mind that footballer, what was his name, Foe?

kronas 01-08-2003 01:17

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Originally posted by Russ D
No, you cannot control how successful you are. If you have such control over your life, I challenge you to bag £10 million on this week's lottery.

You do that and I'll think about agreeing with you.

i was talking about a career path russ not silly stuff like the above you just said

if your intelligent and get a good job and are regonized as a valuble asset for a company you will get rewarded depending on the job/company :)

darkangel 01-08-2003 01:17

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Originally posted by Russ D
Just accept that writing off someone's beliefs as "BS" IS insulting. And I have never produced ANY evidence regarding christianity because I don't need to.
don't want to butt in between this one but does anyone else find what kronas has said offensive, I'm not sure he refered to your beliefs as BS but those beliefs in general?

Russ 01-08-2003 01:21

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Originally posted by kronas
i was talking about a career path russ not silly stuff like the above you just said

if your intelligent and get a good job and are regonized as a valuble asset for a company you will get rewarded depending on the job/company :)

Uh uh, you said you are in control of your life so if that's true then all the above would be possible for you.

I'm sure if you were in control of your life then I'm sure Ms Lavigne would be propped up in your bed waiting for you tonight :D

And as for being intelligent and being an asset to your company....just ask the people in NTL if that makes any difference :)

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I'm not sure he refered to your beliefs as BS but those beliefs in general?
One and the same thing dude.

darkangel 01-08-2003 01:25

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Originally posted by Russ D
One and the same thing dude.
in your opinion.
If i say i find your religion offensive(not that i really care less) would you stop mentioning it?

edit:- or if say i subscribed to this crap ADMIN EDIT - inappropriate link removed
WHY HAS THAT LINK BEEN REMOVED

kronas 01-08-2003 01:25

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Originally posted by Russ D
Uh uh, you said you are in control of your life so if that's truem then all the above would be possible for you.

no i meant within reason not the type of stuff you are referring to

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Originally posted by Russ D

I'm sure if you were in control of your life then I'm sure Ms Lavigne would be propped up in your bed waiting for you tonight :D

ok now that was a lowblow russ :D

if i knew her or lived near her i would go over and......... you get the picture

maybe if i was rich i would go and find her and tell her...........

you know the rest again

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Originally posted by Russ D

And as for being intelligent and being an asset to your company....just ask the people in NTL if that makes any difference :)

i did say job/company dependent and MS are a prime example of a company who do that

Russ 01-08-2003 01:35

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If i say i find your religion offensive(not that i really care less) would you stop mentioning it?
If you could give me a valid reason why it's offensive then I'd consider it.

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no i meant within reason not the type of stuff you are referring to
Within reason? But wait, I thought YOU were in control of your life....if you're in control then there can be no 'within reason'....

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ok now that was a lowblow russ

if i knew her or lived near her i would go over and......... you get the picture

maybe if i was rich i would go and find her and tell her...........

you know the rest again
Again wait...if you were in control of your own life, then all of that wouldn't matter would it...? Unless some 'higher-power is actually in control?

Darkangel - I removed that link due to the offensive content - please do not link to such sites in future than you very much

kronas 01-08-2003 01:39

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Originally posted by Russ D

Within reason? But wait, I thought YOU were in control of your life....if you're in control then there can be no 'within reason'....

yes there can be others can make adverse decisions affecting you humans are free thinkers in the workplace however you can still be sucessful and earn lots of money

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Originally posted by Russ D

Again wait...if you were in control of your own life, then all of that wouldn't matter would it...? Unless some 'higher-power is actually in control?

if i really wanted to id proberbly get the cash right now and go and find her :D

but ultimatetly it would be her decision and i know it would be wtf hell NO who are you :p

darkangel 01-08-2003 01:39

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Originally posted by Russ D
If you could give me a valid reason why it's offensive then I'd consider it.
Darkangel - I removed that link due to the offensive content - please do not link to such sites in future than you very much.

Again wait...if you were in control of your own life, then all of that wouldn't matter would it...? Unless some 'higher-power is actually in control?

could u give me a reason as to why u find calling religion BS is offensive?
inappropriate by who's standards? are u saying that if that was my religion i do not have the right to post it?

Russ 01-08-2003 01:46

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yes there can be others can make adverse decisions affecting you humans are free thinkers in the workplace however you can still be sucessful and earn lots of money
But if you were in control then these others wouldn't have ANY affect on your life :D

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but ultimatetly it would be her decision and i know it would be wtf hell NO who are you
Again, if you were in control it wouldn't be HER decision would it??

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could u give me a reason as to why u find calling religion BS is offensive?
The term BS is IMO quite offensive. Why? because as a moderator I have been given the authority on here to decide this sort of thing.

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inappropriate by who's standards? are u saying that if that was my religion i do not have the right to post it?
Put it this way - I'm sure if there was a poll on nthw.co.uk users on which site they'd rather see links to removed, the one in my sig or the one you posted, which do YOU think you would come first?

darkangel 01-08-2003 01:50

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Originally posted by Russ D

Put it this way - I'm sure if there was a poll on nthw.co.uk users on which site they'd rather see links to removed, the one in my sig or the one you posted, which do YOU think you would come first?

i sure that if a muslim site was posted the results would be the same, did u have a look at that site frankly i found it quite funny.
what guidelines are there to posting, surely it's a bit of a conflict of interest to remove things u persoanly find offensive but nobody else ha complained about?


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